Jedi Knight vs Sith Inquisitor

After both finishing their respective storylines, these two meet up on Hoth and duke it out for TOR supremacy. Who wins?

The Jedi Knights Credentials:

Jedi Knight Endgame.

Spoiler:
0:28, Scourge: [On the ancient temple Vitiate is currently occupying] "The Emperor built it. He imprisoned his enemies there for many centuries. It is a place of vast dark power."

Deduct points for fighting him in a dark side nexus, where his powers would only be enhanced. Doubly worse when you consider that Dromund Kaas is itself a dark side nexus (according to the Lore, apparently).

1:46, Scourge: "I will fly us to the Emperor's temple, but you must face him alone. No one else can resist his direct influence."

Add points for impressive mental abilities.

6:33, Vitiate: "You [the Jedi Knight] dissipated your energies saving the weak [Kira Carsen]. There are consequences."

10:38, Scourge: "You gave the Emperor time to gather his strength. We are all fortunate to be alive."

So a weakened!Jedi Knight is able to block the lightning of a full powered!Vitiate on a dark side nexus and then defeat him in single combat?

The Sith Inquisitor's Credentials:

Sith Inquisitor Endgame

Spoiler:
Lets see: Effortlessly swatting Force Lightning aside one-handed, tanking and then absorbing a Force Storm, telekinetically stopping a lightsaber and then forcing his opponent to his knees. Dude be hardcorez.

Originally posted by Nephthys
After both finishing their respective storylines, these two meet up on Hoth and duke it out for TOR supremacy. Who wins?

The Jedi Knights Credentials:

Jedi Knight Endgame.

Spoiler:
0:28, Scourge: [On the ancient temple Vitiate is currently occupying] "The Emperor built it. He imprisoned his enemies there for many centuries. It is a place of vast dark power."

Deduct points for fighting him in a dark side nexus, where his powers would only be enhanced. Doubly worse when you consider that Dromund Kaas is itself a dark side nexus (according to the Lore, apparently).

1:46, Scourge: "I will fly us to the Emperor's temple, but you must face him alone. No one else can resist his direct influence."

Add points for impressive mental abilities.

6:33, Vitiate: "You [the Jedi Knight] dissipated your energies saving the weak [Kira Carsen]. There are consequences."

10:38, Scourge: "You gave the Emperor time to gather his strength. We are all fortunate to be alive."

So a weakened!Jedi Knight is able to block the lightning of a full powered!Vitiate on a dark side nexus and then defeat him in single combat?

The Sith Inquisitor's Credentials:

Sith Inquisitor Endgame

Spoiler:
Lets see: Effortlessly swatting Force Lightning aside one-handed, tanking and then absorbing a Force Storm, telekinetically stopping a lightsaber and then forcing his opponent to his knees. Dude be hardcorez.

To be fair that Emperor was not the real Vitiate but his one true voice. But I still say the Knight wins.

After reading the first part of your statement, I'm not sure how you come to this conclusion. Nobody knows the status of the Emperor, other than he uses bodies as extensions of his will.

Which conclusion do you mean?

But I still say the Knight wins.

Interesting. You've been the one championing Vitiate quite a lot. Wouldn't you give some props to the guy who defeated him, while on a darkside nexus and in his temple I might add?

Not until I play the Jedi Knight character to find out more specifics and not when it's the Emperor's Voice and not actually the Emperor.

I'm confused as to why "dark side nexus" is suddenly this variable that pumps up Sith/DS combatants considerably, but "Malak on the Star Forge" is arguably on a tier well below Dooku/Maul/Anakin/Coleman Trebor, etc.

Anyways, having played -most- of the SI storyline, it seems unlikely that the SI would put up much of a fight in saber combat. The Jedi Knight is noted as being a master duelist even in early training and no doubt progresses in power and skill throughout the campaign. However, the context of the Emperor's defeat is crucial here. if the JK legitimately overcame the Emperor without some kind of advantage, then it seems reasonable to conclude that the JK could defeat the SI by virtue of being -the- best hero of that era, etc. However, if some plot-induced weakness was utilized prior, it may weaken the achievement. Additionally, the spirits which the SI has bound prevent him/her from dying at one point, when Darth Thanaton attempts to drain all life from the SI.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Not until I play the Jedi Knight character to find out more specifics and not when it's the Emperor's Voice and not actually the Emperor.

It's technically his avatar. And considering that even Scourge couldn't tell the difference between then it doesn't downplay his victory.

Being unable to tell a difference doesn't negate the fact that it was an extension of his will.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Being unable to tell a difference doesn't negate the fact that it was an extension of his will.

Except for the fact that Scourge has been accompanying the Emperor for 300 years. Meaning even if that isn't the real Emperor the Voice must have power at least on the same level of the one that fought Revan. If he didn't Scourge would have noticed something different.

Except for the fact that Scourge has been accompanying the Emperor for 300 years. Meaning even if that isn't the real Emperor the Voice must have power at least on the same level of the one that fought Revan. If he didn't Scourge would have noticed something different.

Good god, your ability to come up with blatant bullshit is astounding.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Good god, your ability to come up with blatant bullshit is astounding.

Your ability to form arguments is incredibly shitty Beefington. Since I have posted here the limit of your ability has been.
Poster: This is my opinion because of XYZ
You: Nu-Uh
Prove that the Sith Inquisitor is more powerful than the Jedi Knight.

Your ability to form arguments is incredibly shitty Beefington. Since I have posted here the limit of your ability has been.

Poster: This is my opinion because of XYZ

Prove that the Sith Inquisitor is more powerful than the Jedi Knight.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Good god, your ability to come up with blatant bullshit is astounding.

From the Codex: In fact, to converse with the Emperor’s Voice is to have an audience with the Emperor himself, whose power and consciousness have been placed within the Voice’s body.

Seems to me that the Voice of the Emperor is nothing more than the Emperor's current body. Regarldess, it does say that the voice has the Emperor's power. So yeah, Jedi Knight for the win.

Plus he has someother cool feats like mind tricking a Sith Lord.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Good god, your ability to come up with blatant bullshit is astounding.

His point is logical and good.

No it's not lol. We don't know what the Emperor did for 300 years. We don't know how much time Scourge spent with him. And Scourge would technically be correct that it was the Emperor because the Voice is an extension of the Emperor's will, not a full on essence transfer. Also, the fact that you think his points that I outlined are "logical" says it all.

From the Codex: In fact, to converse with the Emperor’s Voice is to have an audience with the Emperor himself, whose power and consciousness have been placed within the Voice’s body.

As the Emperors Wrath Scourge was Vitiates personal inforcer and executioner answering directly and only to him. We can see this in the Jedi Knights first meeting with the Emperor when you fight Scourge who is defending him. To suggest that after spending 300 years as the mans most trusted agent that the man couldn't spot a fake or didn't know about the Emperor's Voice is lucirous.

Maybe you missed the 'power and consciousness' part of that quote.

Maybe you missed the 'power and consciousness' part of that quote.

Maybe you missed the part where an extension of his will is the same thing as power and consciousness. It wasn't a full essence transfer. The guy the Jedi Knight fought was the Voice. The guy I fought on Voss was the voice. I find it funny that those who are quick to dispell the notion of the Jedi Knight fighting anything less than the Emperor himself, are also those who haven't played the game or done any kind of research.🙂

Maybe you missed the part where an extension of his will is the same thing as power and consciousness.