Originally posted by zopzopMxy at his best, wiped out the ENTIRE DC omniverse
(this in cludes the "real" world too) and then recreated it.
Come on zop,
let's not entertain 4th wall garbage as a means to define a characters abilities.
Because in those standards,
John Byrne's classic She-Hulk is the most powerful being in Marvel ever. 😛
That,
and I bet she'd stomp Mxy since she literally killed TOAA (on panel)
John Byrne himself (artist/writer of the run)
and stomped TOAA's bosses (Gruenwald and De-Falco) with one kick.
btw. This didn't happen in some obscure title that one can argue it's canonicity,
this took place in her mainstream comic-line in 616,
even officially canon as it's corroborated by her handbook bios.
She-Hulk was the almighty and beyond across those 50 issues. 🙂
Although,
that's not gonna make me pin her against even against Surfer in a serious forum battle.
Mxy destroyed/re-created the entire DC reality, that's it,
which is far more than Franky's done or has shown capable of doing,
so Mxy stomps.
Originally posted by Mr Master👆
😂Come on zop,
let's not entertain 4th wall garbage as a means to define a characters abilities.Because in those standards,
John Byrne's classic She-Hulk is the most powerful being in Marvel ever.That,
and I bet she'd stomp Mxy since she literally killed TOAA (on panel)
John Byrne himself (artist/writer of the run)
and stomped TOAA's bosses (Gruenwald and De-Falco) with one kick.btw. This didn't happen in some obscure title that one can argue it's canonicity,
this took place in her mainstream comic-line in 616.She-Hulk was the almighty and beyond across those 50 issues. 🙂
Although,
that's not gonna make me pin her against even against Surfer in a serious forum battle.
Originally posted by zopzop
Incredible spite against Franklin. Mxy at his best, wiped out the ENTIRE DC omniverse (this in cludes the "real" world too) and then recreated it. Furthermore, he stated he does this on a weekly basis.Franklin would be destroyed in a picosecond.
👆 This. He casually destroyed everything. Frank is powerful, but not like that.
Originally posted by Mr Master
😂Come on zop,
let's not entertain 4th wall garbage as a means to define a characters abilities.Because in those standards,
John Byrne's classic She-Hulk is the most powerful being in Marvel ever. 😛That,
and I bet she'd stomp Mxy since she literally killed TOAA (on panel)
John Byrne himself (artist/writer of the run)
and stomped TOAA's bosses (Gruenwald and De-Falco) with one kick.btw. This didn't happen in some obscure title that one can argue it's canonicity,
this took place in her mainstream comic-line in 616,
even officially canon as it's corroborated by her handbook bios.She-Hulk was the almighty and beyond across those 50 issues. 🙂
Although,
that's not gonna make me pin her against even against Surfer in a serious forum battle.Mxy destroyed/re-created the entire DC reality, that's it,
which is far more than Franky's done or has shown capable of doing,
so Mxy stomps.
Since we both agree Franklin has no chance vs Mxy, I'm just gonna argue the She-Hulk "feat". When she was roughing up Byrne and crew, did this happen in the "real world" or in comic form on the panel?
Because Mxy EXITED the panel and entered the "real world" (it wasn't in comic form) and it was considered just one of the many universes that make up DC actuality (the he later destroyed and recreated).
Originally posted by zopzopI'm just gonna argue the She-Hulk "feat".
When she was roughing up Byrne and crew,
did this happen in the "real world" or in comic form on the panel?
... and she did it in the comic book
just like Mxy did everything he did within the comic book.
Originally posted by zopzopBecause Mxy EXITED the panel and entered the "real world" (it wasn't in comic form)
and it was considered just one of the many universes that make up
DC actuality (the he later destroyed and recreated).
She-Hulk EXITED panels as well, even running across a splash page
where one of her friends tripped over one of the staples that holds
trade paper back pages together.
In the Mxy scenario they show photos in that page,
makes no difference, it's still within a comic book no matter the illusion.
But neither She-Hulk,
or Mxy ever really 'exited" the comic, that thought is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Mr Master
She didn't just rough Byrne up, ... she killed him.... and she did it in the comic book
just like Mxy did everything he did within the comic book.Nah, he didn't enter the real world, 😂
how can you say that and not put a ... 😆 ... after it?She-Hulk EXITED panels as well, even running across a splash page
where one of her friends tripped over one of the staples that holds
trade paper back pages together.In the Mxy scenario they show photos in that page,
makes no difference, it's still within a comic book no matter the illusion.But neither She-Hulk,
or Mxy ever really 'exited" the comic, that thought is ridiculous.
In "comic book" terms, he did exit. And the "real world" was just one of the many universes that make up the DC Omniverse :
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wf10.jpg
Originally posted by zopzopIn "comic book" terms, he did exit.
And the "real world" was just one of the many universes that make up the DC Omniverse :
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/wf10.jpg
Again, it's an illustration of him jumping outside the panel,
but still within the book.
That's nice that they decided to use photos,
it makes no difference though.
(I have a Dazzler issue where she performs as a human in photos as well)
She-Hulk jumped out of her panels as well,
but it was illustrated in ink.
They're both within the book.
It's an illustration, unless you really believe Mxy re-created you. 😂
** That aside ... incase this is unknown ...
... the "real world" is not just another reality in Marvel,
it's actually the mainstream Universe.
So, DC having that, is nothing special on this side of the camp.
But why not? I mean, of course, if we wanted to disregard it, the OP can say She-Hulk vs Mangog, but no 4th wall breaking, similar to how we have OPs which state WBHulk vs Stardust, but with no BFRing......
I'm just wondering, because it has happened, on panel, in a canon comic - unless we want to disregard it all as PIS?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85It's ridiculous and shouldn't be taken seriously since comic book characters beat their asses 99 percent of the time is what I am saying. It still happens but shouldn't be used as a legit option.
But why not? I mean, of course, if we wanted to disregard it, the OP can say She-Hulk vs Mangog, but no 4th wall breaking, similar to how we have OPs which state WBHulk vs Stardust, but with no BFRing......I'm just wondering, because it has happened, on panel, in a canon comic - unless we want to disregard it all as PIS?
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85But why not? I mean, of course, if we wanted to disregard it, the
OP can say She-Hulk vs Mangog, but no 4th wall breaking, similar to
how we have OPs which state WBHulk vs Stardust, but with no
BFRing......I'm just wondering, because it has happened, on panel, in a canon
comic - unless we want to disregard it all as PIS?
So unless it's basically going to be a 4th wall breaking piss contest
between the few characters that have done it,
you're looking at a pretty comedic and eventually silly debate, imo.
Fair enough. Just seems strange that we disregard it (maybe the mods can have a ruling on it?) just because its 'ridiculous'. After all, Mxy isn't supposed to be taken seriously in the first place, so where do you draw the line?
I mean, he's a 5D imp from a dimension where colours are personified by mischievious princes....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85He gets defeated all the time by comic book characters so why ignore that for something he did in an elseworlds comic.
Fair enough. Just seems strange that we disregard it (maybe the mods can have a ruling on it?) just because its 'ridiculous'. After all, Mxy isn't supposed to be taken seriously in the first place, so where do you draw the line?I mean, he's a 5D imp from a dimension where colours are personified by mischievious princes....
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I mean, he's a 5D imp from a dimension where colours are
personified by mischievious princes....
Now, when we have drawings controlling their own plots (She-Hulk)
heck, controlling their own writers (She-Hulk, wait, even killing what is considered to be TOAA in Marvel which is the writer/artist)
or knowing she's being watched by us, even jumping out of the comic,
or reading the handbooks to easily defeat her opponents
and finally literally ripping entire pages off her book then dumping it in
a burning trash to stomp foes.
I mean ... come on. 😂
By these standards She-Hulk > TOAA ... and by far!
