Thor vs Superman (Pure strength)

Started by Adam Grimes32 pages

It's a straight up idiotic and disingenuous statement to make.

Whats the difference between post crisis and current Superman?

Originally posted by carver9
Whats the difference between post crisis and current Superman?

Post was killed by Doomsday.

Current was hit even harder than that, and was OK.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
There is a thing called real life. Anyhow, this has been explained repeatedly but I will do it once more. See the scan below:

https://ibb.co/d0gV0Zj

In Richard’s statement, “the other universe” is set between em dashes, which serve a similar function as parenthesis by providing clarification. In this case, Reed clarifies what Cap is achieving by pushing the planet away. By pushing that Earth away, Cap is literally pushing that universe away.

Now, there is no indication that any one incursion differs in nature from another. Henceforth, in the same way that Cap pushes a universe away by pushing a planet away, Hyperion similarly holds two universes apart by holding the two Earth’s apart.

You see, an incursion is when two universes collide and the Earths of each universe serve as the collision points. When those two Earth’s collide, the universes collide and the force of the universal collision destroys both universes. Holding the two planets apart holds the two universes apart.

you’re lying. Smh. Pushing the earth away doesnt mean pushing the universe away.

But can you answer the question dumberto ran from.
The worlds broke, universes collapsed.
Are worlds an universes the same thing to you?

Originally posted by Diesldude
you’re lying. Smh. Pushing the earth away doesnt mean pushing the universe away.

But can you answer the question dumberto ran from.
The worlds broke, universes collapsed.
Are worlds an universes the same thing to you?

Stop lying. It does mean that in this case.

Your straw man is irrelevant. No one is saying that world and universe are the same. A barbell is not the same as plates. But you push the barbell to move the plates.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Stop lying. It does mean that in this case.

Your straw man is irrelevant. No one is saying that world and universe are the same. A barbell is not the same as plates. But you push the barbell to move the plates.

smh asking a question is lying? Hahaha so they aren’t the same and a distinction made even further when they said worlds broke and universes collapsed. Both were treated differently. And when they said Hyperion held 2 worlds they didn’t say 2 universes. Clear as day hype was between 2 earths and he failed to keep them apart. Not even planetary feat is being jerked to universal level by blind homers.

Originally posted by Diesldude
smh asking a question is lying? Hahaha so they aren’t the same and a distinction made even further when they said worlds broke and universes collapsed. Both were treated differently. And when they said Hyperion held 2 worlds they didn’t say 2 universes. Clear as day hype was between 2 earths and he failed to keep them apart. Not even planetary feat is being jerked to universal level by blind homers.

Simple common sense would dictate that I was calling the statement in your first paragraph a lie and that's giving you a taste of your own emo medicine.

You obsess with what is not specifically stated in order to run from what is overwhelmingly shown. The irony is that you claim that Hype fails to hold them apart despite the text specifically stating that he holds them apart.

https://ibb.co/zRZKFVY

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Simple common sense would dictate that I was calling the statement in your first paragraph a lie and that's giving you a taste of your own emo medicine.

You obsess with what is not specifically stated in order to run from what is overwhelmingly shown. The irony is that you claim that Hype fails to hold them apart despite the text specifically stating that he holds them apart.

https://ibb.co/zRZKFVY

Sad. Its just sad how people have to point things out like this

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Simple common sense would dictate that I was calling the statement in your first paragraph a lie and that's giving you a taste of your own emo medicine.

1 part of that paragraph was accusation towards you so it could not have been a lie.

2nd part of the paragraph is a statement that Earth doesnt equal a universe isn't a lie? so where are you giving me a taste of my own meds? you didn't it was a lame attempt at a comeback for calling you a liar which you have proven to be multiple times.

Originally posted by TheHulkster

You obsess with what is not specifically stated in order to run from what is overwhelmingly shown.

Caught you with another lie, I am going by what is shown and stated.

2 worlds broke and 2 universes collapsed.

Originally posted by TheHulkster

The irony is that you claim that Hype fails to hold them apart despite the text specifically stating that he holds them apart.

https://ibb.co/zRZKFVY


Well he didnt save either of the univserses did he so its a failure right?

Since you claim that i obsess over what is not stated, tell me in your scan https://ibb.co/zRZKFVY what was he holding apart, was he holding universes or worlds apart?

Its in the scan. Let's see who it is that obsess over what is not stated. if you answer this question honestly we can end this debate once and for all. but you won't.

^^^Not sure why but that post got submitted before i was done. This is the entire post.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Simple common sense would dictate that I was calling the statement in your first paragraph a lie and that's giving you a taste of your own emo medicine.

1 part of that paragraph was accusation towards you so it could not have been a lie.

2nd part of the paragraph is a statement that Earth doesnt equal a universe and that most definitely isn't a lie. so where are you giving me a taste of my own meds? you didn't, it was a lame attempt at a comeback for calling you a liar which you have proven to be multiple times. Sorry dont want to be blunt but, it's just how you operate.

Originally posted by TheHulkster

You obsess with what is not specifically stated in order to run from what is overwhelmingly shown.

Caught you with another lie, I am going by what is shown and stated.

2 worlds broke and 2 universes collapsed.

Originally posted by TheHulkster

The irony is that you claim that Hype fails to hold them apart despite the text specifically stating that he holds them apart.

https://ibb.co/zRZKFVY


Well he didnt save either of the universes did he so its a failure right?

Here is the entire page, not cropped out image.
https://i.imgur.com/zDwSZry.jpg

start from the 3rd panel.
The other heroes are shown dying. Then next scan says

By the time the worlds were about to touch, he was all that remained of them. Clearly speaking of the 2 earths and that everyone had died and he was holding them apart.

Final panel says
until the worlds broke. Not universes but worlds broke. The worlds that he was trying to hold apart. when they broke then the universes collapsed because of cascading energies.

No where does it say that he was holding 2 universes back. Holding the earth doesn't mean that your holding the universes away. I know you're going to go back to the Captain American scan. So ill bring the entire page instead of half a bubble you're going to supply.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/JA5sp.jpg

Reed doesnt say that cap is pushing the earth and by extension the universe away. He specifically states cap is "Literally pushing an entire universe that is hidden from us".
So cap never pushed just the other earth, he was pushing the universe, We see the other earth because that was the closest part of the other universe.

Now that we have the entire page, and i gave you a breakdown of it, Let's see who it is that obsess over what is not stated. if you answer this question honestly we can end this debate once and for all. but you won't.

Was Hyperion holding universes or worlds apart?

Originally posted by carver9
Sad. Its just sad how people have to point things out like this
you looking for some action for your lips?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
https://m.imgur.com/7793LHw

Originally posted by carver9
Well, i guess this throws out the window if Thor can crush world's or not. It say it right on panel.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
"Worlds" is plural.

Good feat. Superman too can do it, only on his lonesome.

Although, maybe he uses his flight powers to crush worlds.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Good feat. Superman too can do it, only on his lonesome.

Although, maybe he uses his flight powers to crush worlds.

Doesn't specify with his fist though.

True. Like I said,maybe he used his flight.

Originally posted by Diesldude
^^^Not sure why but that post got submitted before i was done. This is the entire post.

1 part of that paragraph was accusation towards you so it could not have been a lie.

2nd part of the paragraph is a statement that Earth doesnt equal a universe and that most definitely isn't a lie. so where are you giving me a taste of my own meds? you didn't, it was a lame attempt at a comeback for calling you a liar which you have proven to be multiple times. Sorry dont want to be blunt but, it's just how you operate.

Caught you with another lie, I am going by what is shown and stated.

2 worlds broke and 2 universes collapsed.

Well he didnt save either of the universes did he so its a failure right?

Here is the entire page, not cropped out image.
https://i.imgur.com/zDwSZry.jpg

start from the 3rd panel.
The other heroes are shown dying. Then next scan says

By the time the worlds were about to touch, he was all that remained of them. Clearly speaking of the 2 earths and that everyone had died and he was holding them apart.

Final panel says
until the worlds broke. Not universes but worlds broke. The worlds that he was trying to hold apart. when they broke then the universes collapsed because of cascading energies.

No where does it say that he was holding 2 universes back. Holding the earth doesn't mean that your holding the universes away. I know you're going to go back to the Captain American scan. So ill bring the entire page instead of half a bubble you're going to supply.

https://i.stack.imgur.com/JA5sp.jpg

Reed doesnt say that cap is pushing the earth and by extension the universe away. He specifically states cap is "Literally pushing an entire [B]universe that is hidden from us".
So cap never pushed just the other earth, he was pushing the universe, We see the other earth because that was the closest part of the other universe.

Now that we have the entire page, and i gave you a breakdown of it, Let's see who it is that obsess over what is not stated. if you answer this question honestly we can end this debate once and for all. but you won't.

Was Hyperion holding universes or worlds apart? [/B]

Again, no one said that Earth equals a universe. That is your second lie and a straw man that you are clinging to. You're on a roll. What I said is that during an incursion, in order to push the Earth back, one must push the entire universe back. And Reed Richards most certainly says that here:

https://ibb.co/d0gV0Zj

He never said that.

Yes he does.

He didn't.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Again, no one said that Earth equals a universe. That is your second lie and a straw man that you are clinging to. You're on a roll. What I said is that during an incursion, in order to push the Earth back, one must push the entire universe back. And Reed Richards most certainly says that here:

https://ibb.co/d0gV0Zj

😂 read my second statement again. I was clarifying my position.

But like I said more cropped out scans and no answer to a simple straight forward question.

Reed said cap was “literally pushing the other universe” during the event. it includes the other earth right? He didn’t use the word world, or say that if cap pushes the other earth it will stop the incursion. Smh. He said literally I mean he literally said literally. 😂

So now can you please stop with your lame comeback attempts and cropped out scans and just answer my question.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't.
yup I didn’t lie and he didn’t answer the question. 👆