Originally posted by Nietzschean😂 @ the notion that lifting a shard of the M'Kraan=lifting the multiverse.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9877/xmenomegap45.jpgThe M'kraan crystal shard of the multiverse.
x2 😂's, in fact.
Originally posted by Nietzschean😂 @ the notion that lifting a shard of the M'Kraan=lifting the multiverse.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9877/xmenomegap45.jpgThe M'kraan crystal shard of the multiverse.
x2 😂's, in fact.
Originally posted by Galan007In the comic the lil furball told Gambit that the shard was the same as the whole of the M'kraan crystal..
Lifting a shard of the M'Kraan=/=any sort of high-end lifting feat, though....By any stretch of the imagination. none
tell me what is the difference between the physical manifestation of the multiverse in the form of the M'kraan crystal and the infinity book?
what makes one better over the other.
while u are at it tell me what is the difference between the Soul Gems and the infinity book since within them is another Universe and manifestation of their respective universal aspects and held by individual ppl.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I actually stumbled upon a mathematical equation that estimated the weight of the Serpent one day.The tricky part isn't calculating the weight of Jormungand, anyway. It's figuring how much pressure he was exerting as well; the snake was coiled around the Earth and obviously was fighting the attempt to move it.
Originally posted by Nihilist
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Originally posted by NietzscheanThe hell? I think youre confusing yourself.
while u are at it tell me what is the difference between the Soul Gems and the infinity book since within them is another Universe and manifestation of their respective universal aspects and held by individual ppl.
The gems contain power. Power is weightless. That's why an average human can lift them. The infinite book contains an infinite amount of pages. Pages have weight. That's why both Superman and Captain Marvel struggled to lift it.
Originally posted by Galan007the soul gem itself contains an entire universe within it the same manner as Franklin Richards ball. it is not just power and depending on the power, power itself can have weight.
The hell? I think youre confusing yourself.The gems contain power. Power is weightless. That's why an average human can lift them. The infinite book contains an infinite amount of pages. Pages have weight. That's why both Superman and Captain Marvel struggled to lift it.
I like to add the Worlogog
Originally posted by Nietzschean
the soul gem itself contains an entire universe within it the same manner as Franklin Richards ball. it is not just power and depending on the power, power itself can have weight.I like to add the Worlogog
Originally posted by abhilegend
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So you think everyone who lifted soul gem or that M'Kraan crystal shard lifted a universe in their hands, so holocaust survived a universe stabbed in his chest? When jean went into crystal to repair it she commented how it was just a dimensional barrier which separated it from rest of the universe. As for soul gem ask Mr master.
they do.
yes.
and when Jahf explained the M'kraan crystal he said it contained the multiverse in its various facets, where space is meaningless and a shard of the M'kraan crystal is the same as the whole.. that the infinite cannot be reduced or some such in the age of apocalypse.
why would I ask Mr. Master, when Warlock explained the nature of metaphysics within the Soul Gem. It is a Universe unto itself. Strength and Power is meaningless when it comes to metaphysics. one is only as strong or powerful as one beliefs themselves to be.
their is a point to this that you are all either ignoring or too blind to see.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
they do.
yes.and when Jahf explained the M'kraan crystal he said it contained the multiverse in its various facets, where space is meaningless and a shard of the M'kraan crystal is the same as the whole.. that the infinite cannot be reduced or some such in the age of apocalypse.
why would I ask Mr. Master, when Warlock explained the nature of metaphysics within the Soul Gem. It is a Universe unto itself. Strength and Power is meaningless when it comes to metaphysics. one is only as strong or powerful as one beliefs themselves to be.
their is a point to this that you are all either ignoring or too blind to see.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
So holocaust survived a multiverse stabbing or all the guys who lifted that shard are infinitely powerful? Man, what a feat? Where was it stated that the shard or gem were infinitely heavy like with the book where it was specifically stated that to lift it you must be very strong?
Originally posted by abhilegendmy point is that holding a universe in ones hands is an abstract feat and its meaningless in a strength feat comparison the same way a book with infinite pages or with pages of every book ever written would be just as meaningless.
So holocaust survived a multiverse stabbing or all the guys who lifted that shard are infinitely powerful? Man, what a feat? Where was it stated that the shard or gem were infinitely heavy like with the book where it was specifically stated that to lift it you must be very strong?
Marvel doesnt worry about applying weight to such a feat hence, a kid can hold a universe in the palm of his hand as any other person without being Superman or Thor strong. Either both are valid or non are valid.
u should ask, why is Captain Marvel and Superman struggling to lift an abstract book when Guys like Warlock and Franklin Richard's can lift an entire universe in their hand?
universes with sentient life, planets, stars, galaxies and even books beyond what can be counted.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
my point is that holding a universe in ones hands is an abstract feat and its meaningless in a strength feat comparison the same way a book with infinite pages or with pages of every book ever written would be just as meaningless.Marvel doesnt worry about applying weight to such a feat hence, a kid can hold a universe in the palm of his hand as any other person without being Superman or Thor strong. Either both are valid or non are valid.
u should ask, why is Captain Marvel and Superman struggling to lift an abstract book when Guys like Warlock and Franklin Richard's can lift an entire universe in their hand?
universes with sentient life, planets, stars, galaxies and even books beyond what can be counted.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength42494.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorStrength43494.jpg
Or like this
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31325/698598-99440_5_122_987lo_super.jpg
Or hulk clapping away a dimension (so I've heard). Where are those feats you mention are listed as strength or power feats?
Originally posted by abhilegendMy point it doesnt have to be b/c it is an abstract feat but by their own nature and logic it has to have mass b/c they contain universes that exceed the infinite book that so many like to brag and use.
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superman and Cap tag teamed to lift a book with every book ever written.
pffff...
a lil kid in marvel held an entire universe in the palm of his hands.
my point is quite clear here. dont use abstract feats b/c if u want to compare them than they are valid. 😎
and who says u need a narration to state it is a strength feat?
a car is a car, a star is a star, a universe is a universe.. for decades writers have not mention strength when characters hold or lift an object that a person would have to be superhuman to lift or would be logically impossible.
here is someone using an excuse to try to discount and discredit something that has happen on panel.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
My point it doesnt have to be b/c it is an abstract feat but by their own nature and logic it has to have mass b/c they contain universes that exceed the infinite book that so many like to brag and use.superman and Cap tag teamed to lift a book with every book ever written.
pffff...
a lil kid in marvel held an entire universe in the palm of his hands.
my point is quite clear here. dont use abstract feats b/c if u want to compare them than they are valid. 😎
and who says u need a narration to state it is a strength feat?
a car is a car, a star is a star, a universe is a universe.. for decades writers have not mention strength when characters hold or lift an object that a person would have to be superhuman to lift or would be logically impossible.
here is someone using an excuse to try to discount and discredit something that has happen on panel.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
the soul gem itself contains an entire universe within it the same manner as Franklin Richards ball. it is not just power and depending on the power, power itself can have weight.I like to add the Worlogog
Lol you forgot to add that the Joker, Lex, MM and Superman all held the Worlogog so....I won't count that.
The book with infinite pages actually had and infinite number of pages, all occupying the same space--that's what makes it different than the infinity gems. If it was a simple matter of 'metaphysics', the book would have weighed the same amount as a normal/average book, but it didn't. That's why Supes/Marv were barely able to lift it.
Point: when one lifts the infinite book, they are actually lifting an infinite amount of weight (as dumb as it sounds.) When one lifts the M'Kraan, they are not lifting the multiverse.
