Has anyone here even read Darwin's original works????

I really want to know the answer to this question. Who here has actually read Darwin's works on evolution?

If you're an atheist, you should(If you're a Christian, you should ,too). If you are an athiest, then you don't believe that there is a God. Therefore, the only thing that you can believe about the origin of the Earth is the Big Bang theory, and you believe that all life came to be by evolution. The theory of evolution was created by Charles Darwin, so you believe what he has written and said.

However, how many of you have read one of his books? How many have read his ORIGINAL book on evolution? If you haven't, how can you believe in something that you don't know? Because if you haven't read what he has said, how do you know what he said?

Can anyone here answer any of those questions? 😮‍💨

Darwin's writings haven't been relevant for decades. People would only read them now as a historical curiosity. Science changes too fast for work done over a century ago to be very expository.

Maybe, but the theory of evolution is based off of them. What atheists today believe is contrary to what Darwin said, so I think that it can't really be called "the theory of evolution" anymore.

the theory of evolution is based on Darwin's work, sure, however Darwin's work is no longer authoritive on the subject.

for instance, I printed off an article today about how neurological atrophy in old age tells us about the evolution of the brain through earlier forms of the homo genus. In Darwin's time, this would have been impossible to do, as they lacked fundamental understandings of biology and neurology that we enjoy today. sure, he provided some groundwork and insight, but the beauty of science is that it moves past personalities and sticks with what the evidence says.

why do you think evolution and atheism are incompattable?

Originally posted by inimalist
why do you think evolution and atheism are incompattable?

Because evolution proves my God exists. uhuh

Originally posted by dadudemon
Because evolution proves my God exists. uhuh

you can't prove something that is unfalsifiable

Originally posted by inimalist
you can't prove something that is unfalsifiable

I did.

I prayed. God answered my prayer in a specific way. Then I found direct evidence of it which happens to be the entire set of modern biology.

So do I win? 😄

not at science 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
not at science 😉

Really?

🙁

Okay. I guess I'll just ignore all of modern biology, then.

Man, I was really looking forward to a mature nano-technology that could cure most forms of cancer, too.

Way to dash my hopes and dreams, bub.

I was never seriously taught Creationism, even when I was little and brought up Catholic. So the evolution vs Creationism debate was a non-issue in my gradual conversion to what most would consider atheism.

Originally posted by zoom3
If you are an athiest, then you don't believe that there is a God. Therefore, the only thing that you can believe about the origin of the Earth is the Big Bang theory

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I was never seriously taught Creationism, even when I was little and brought up Catholic. So the evolution vs Creationism debate was a non-issue in my gradual conversion to what most would consider atheism.

Except for the Catholic part, Ditto. In fact, I did not run into the creationism idea (from another human) until after mo-fuggin' highschool, if you can believe it. I had a general idea of what it was but no single person had ever stated they believed in it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Really?

🙁

Okay. I guess I'll just ignore all of modern biology, then.

Man, I was really looking forward to a mature nano-technology that could cure most forms of cancer, too.

Way to dash my hopes and dreams, bub.

the conclusion that modern biology supports any divine entity is not in line with scientific evidence. It might be your interpretation, but failing any ability to falsify the theory, it isn't science.

Originally posted by inimalist
the conclusion that modern biology supports any divine entity is not in line with scientific evidence. It might be your interpretation, but failing any ability to falsify the theory, it isn't science.

That is a distinction that most people have a problem with. Even supper string theory is not really science, because there is no way to falsify it, as of yet.

... it really doesnt matter if people have a problem with it, science is t democratic.

Originally posted by zoom3
I really want to know the answer to this question. Who here has actually read Darwin's works on evolution?

If you're an atheist, you should(If you're a Christian, you should ,too). If you are an athiest, then you don't believe that there is a God. Therefore, the only thing that you can believe about the origin of the Earth is the Big Bang theory, and you believe that all life came to be by evolution. The theory of evolution was created by Charles Darwin, so you believe what he has written and said.

However, how many of you have read one of his books? How many have read his ORIGINAL book on evolution? If you haven't, how can you believe in something that you don't know? Because if you haven't read what he has said, how do you know what he said?

Can anyone here answer any of those questions? 😮‍💨

Evolution and Big Bang theory are not in contradiction with existence of God. They're only in contradiction to certain religious texts.

Originally posted by inimalist
... it really doesnt matter if people have a problem with it, science is t democratic.

What? Are you having an issue because I used the word "problem"?

Even the scientists who are working with super string theory admit that sense there is no way to falsify the theory, it is not yet science.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What? Are you having an issue because I used the word "problem"?

Even the scientists who are working with super string theory admit that sense there is no way to falsify the theory, it is not yet science.

yes, exactly...

i don't see what the problem could possibly be, string theory is in no way a verified theory

I think I speak for everyone when I say....."reeeeeeeeeed" what is this read? Darwin sounds like a nerd who had to much time on his hands. How come there isn't the masterbation monologues, I mean what did people do in the 1800's to keep themselves entertained?

It would be more productive to read a modern text book on evolution. Darwin's original work was only a starting place. He got a lot of things wrong, but what he got right was profound.