Originally posted by Sin I AM
current JLA has not been impressive in the least....classic cains defeats them unless, they bfr him or manage to remove his helmet...(which still wont do shit because classic juggs had a skullcap as well)
They DO have a speedster, plus a long range weapon capable of tearing it off (Hal seemed more imaginative in his constructs - I can't see why he can't just ring a hand out to pull it off).
Of course, this depends on whether they would go for it in the first place. Is Juggy's weakness to telepaths common knowledge?
Originally posted by KingD19
People much slower than them hit them all the time. It'll happen here.And on top of him having his helmet, and his skullcap; Classic Juggernaut has an impenetrable forcefield that none of them can get through while it's up.
Fair enough. I'm not that familiar with classic Juggy. I DID read from marveldirectory.com (yes, yes, I know, its not gospel), the following:
Nimrod, a robot from the future of an alternate Earth, successfully attacked the Juggernaut's mind and nervous system with advanced weaponry producing tight-beam high-frequency sound waves and a synapse dislocate that jammed his neural impulses. However, had the Juggernaut used his force field, perhaps he might have proved invulnerable even to these futuristic weapons.
Did he have his forcefield up? There may have been context around this that I am unaware of, hence why I'm not jumping with excitement and proclaiming 'CYBORG ROFLSTOMPS HIM!!!1111!!!!'.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough. I'm not that familiar with classic Juggy. I DID read from marveldirectory.com (yes, yes, I know, its not gospel), the following:Did he have his forcefield up? There may have been context around this that I am unaware of, hence why I'm not jumping with excitement and proclaiming 'CYBORG ROFLSTOMPS HIM!!!1111!!!!'.
No, he didnt have his force field and Nimrod is an exclusion. His powers gives him the ability to create weapons to hurt "any" opponent.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough. I'm not that familiar with classic Juggy. I DID read from marveldirectory.com (yes, yes, I know, its not gospel), the following:Did he have his forcefield up? There may have been context around this that I am unaware of, hence why I'm not jumping with excitement and proclaiming 'CYBORG ROFLSTOMPS HIM!!!1111!!!!'.
His forcefield wasn't on in that fight, then Nimrod knocked his helmet off and hit him with a sonic energy beam that scrambled the signal form his brain to his body. So he was basically paralyzed.
And I'm curious how they BFR him since the only times I recall classic Juggernaut being BFR'd were when Thor looped his arm in Mjiolnir and flew it into space, the streer collapsed under the Godbeam, and Colossus knocked a hole in the ship they were fighting on.
Originally posted by KingD19True about his forcefield it has also showed inertia dampening aspects as well when it slowed Thor's hammer down to almost a stand still.
People much slower than them hit them all the time. It'll happen here.And on top of him having his helmet, and his skullcap; Classic Juggernaut has an impenetrable forcefield that none of them can get through while it's up.
Originally posted by carver9
Bfr isn't working either. They have no option. If the God blast couldn't lift Juggernaut up off the ground along with hammer hits from Thor (who fts of strength poots on anyone here), bfr isn't happening.
Now yes, I believe Hulk's stronger than the God Blast (easily so) but not so much that a calm Savage Hulk exerts more physical force than the God Blast.
It stands to reason that that GB wasn't all that powerful and also, that Juggernaut isn't immune to being bfr'd easily by characters on the level of Savage Hulk.