Originally posted by Stoic
Odin. Based on feats alone, Odin would defeat the Stranger. Odin's recent battle with Galactus, shows that he is one step behind Galactus in terms of power, and versatility. The Stranger has never done anything to make me believe that he is above the Spinx at optimal levels.
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Originally posted by Stoic
Odin. Based on feats alone, Odin would defeat the Stranger. Odin's recent battle with Galactus, shows that he is one step behind Galactus in terms of power, and versatility. The Stranger has never done anything to make me believe that he is above the Spinx at optimal levels.
On the flip side, more recent showings indicate that the Stranger is beyond a Skyfather; Odin was stopped by the dimensional pathways (or something to that effect) collapsing during the IG saga...
The Stranger (or any of the true cosmics for that matter) could not be stopped by something like that...
Afterall, there is a reason why the Stranger stood with "Eternity's Cosmic Brigade" during the Infinity Gauntlet while Odin (or any other Skyfather) did not; the Stranger is on another level than Odin is...
Now sure, you can dig up the Strangers past and use that against him, but keep in mind that character power levels change over time...
Those old Stranger showings dont reflect how Marvel portrays the Stranger of today...
And as of today, the Stranger is portrayed as being beyond Odin...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Also, as pertains Odins fight against Galactus, please note that the Big-G defeated Odin without ever raising a hand against him...
Odin would eat him. Having a cosmic origin gets a character way too much leeway sometimes.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
On the flip side, more recent showings indicate that the Stranger is beyond a Skyfather; Odin was stopped by the dimensional pathways (or something to that effect) collapsing during the IG saga...The Stranger (or any of the true cosmics for that matter) could not be stopped by something like that...
Afterall, there is a reason why the Stranger stood with "Eternity's Cosmic Brigade" during the Infinity Gauntlet while Odin (or any other Skyfather) did not; the Stranger is on another level than Odin is...
Now sure, you can dig up the Strangers past and use that against him, but keep in mind that character power levels change over time...
Those old Stranger showings dont reflect how Marvel portrays the Stranger of today...
And as of today, the Stranger is portrayed as being beyond Odin...
I haven't read the Infinity Gauntlet saga for a very long time so refresh my memory, were Odin and the Skyfathers specifically targeted by Thanos? Because I remember Warlock, Mjolnir and maybe some other beings teleporting to the location of that battle.
Also, I hope you aren't using Stranger's simply standing side by side with those entities as evidence of superiority. I mocked Colossus Big C when he used Zeus standing among the Cosmics in the End as conclusive evidence of him being equal to them and I'll do the same to you. You're gonna need shit that's a lot more concrete than that, especially since Skyfathers have been involved in various high end Cosmic affairs over the years.
What other recent showings does the Stranger have that supports him being above Skyfather?
Originally posted by Horrificus
Does it matter that the Stranger was once 1/4 of the Living Tribunal?
That's impressive as far as titles go, it may even be more impressive than Galactus, but do you really believe that a title automatically places the Stranger above Galactus simply because he was a quarter of the Living Tribunal? Remove Galactus, and replace his name with Odin. The Stranger's feats have never impressed me as being over the trans tier, and at times he has appeared to be less.
Originally posted by Horrificus
Does it matter that the Stranger was once 1/4 of the Living Tribunal?
yeah, i've never really understood that scan --COULD HAVE BEEN THE FACE OF THE STRANGER? wtf is that supposed to mean? stranger was NEVER part of LT. lt implying that stranger might have somehow been a part of lt is just....weird. doesn't really do anything for me, and it does even less for the stranger. never understood why stranger fans have thought so much of that scene. shrug
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin would eat him. Having a cosmic origin gets a character way too much leeway sometimes.
This.
I haven't read the Infinity Gauntlet saga for a very long time so refresh my memory, were Odin and the Skyfathers specifically targeted by Thanos? Because I remember Warlock, Mjolnir and maybe some other beings teleporting to the location of that battle.
Smells like PIS to me.
What other recent showings does the Stranger have that supports him being above Skyfather?
Hell, what recent showings does he have to suggest he's even skyfather tier, let alone ABOVE skyfather.