Originally posted by rotiartWhite Noise
The argument for defeating the word is how it would be done...Apparently by vibrating as an "anti word"
.... Whatever... And superman has found the right frequency to vibrate at to defeat other people before...
Finding this so called frequency is the key. The argument should be whether INbeteeener can find someone that can resonate at the frequency necessary...
Originally posted by lilshogun
The Voice is one of the aspects of the Presence. Forget about Inbetweener. His boss are Chaos and Order. He is pretty much a lower abstract being.
Yup we understand this. But we were pointing out that the IB has displayed the ability to summon Abstracts greater than his creators and have them do his bidding (which makes NO sense but hey it's on panel).
Here it is, Quasar (with Cosmic Awareness) sensing that out of all the abstracts in the universe, Eternity/Death/Infinity/Oblivion are the greatest :
Here is the IB demonstrating the ability to summon one of those Abstracts and forcing her to do his bidding!
IMHO he would PWN the Word by summoning the opposite vibrational energy (or whatever it was) to negate him.
Speaking of which, does the Spectre have an opposite?
Originally posted by guy222
i-b is a lil boy seemed afraid of the captorsnot enough power on team two to stop the word
👆 Indeed, The Word (aka Destiny) usually does not take part in what is happening, just suppose to read from the book and watch over it (and everything else). Did hope The Spectre would have found him when he was looking for him and the others, but he didn't. Least we got to see him find Michael and Lucifer! 🙂
Oh to be clear...
Fight starts with dc in one corner and marvel in another.
Ding ding. Bell Rings.
Eternity passes out into a coma at the sheer power assembled (lik during the cosmic cubes with magus issues during the infinity war)
Inbetweener fires unleashes his power... Like he did summoning death to wipe out the Elders and to which he indicates he doesn't even have to know what your opposite is to summon it when he realizes galactus has no opposite...
The word is suddenly hit by anti-word vibrations and disappears
Suddenly it's spectra vs Inbetweener
The specter goes all wrath of god on Inbetweener...
Team DC wins
Originally posted by Galan007The Word destroyed (permanently) the Elemental Parliaments--the
same Parliaments that gave Swamp Thing a power equal to that of
THE God.
If so, they're equal to the Presence right?
How did the Word defeat beings that can grant others the power of God?
Also, since they gave Swamp Thing a power equal to,
this means ST is also = to the Presence right?
How many characters exactly are = to the Presence over at DC?
Wait, and Primal Monitor is above all this, including the Presence?
But they're also Mxy, who destroyed the "whole" of DC,
how many Supreme Beings did he wipe out since they're are several over at DC?
I'm honestly not trying to be sarcastic,
I'm actually interested in the explanations to make this fit.
Originally posted by Galan007On panel Corrigan Spectre stomped ZH Parallax--the guy
who destroyed the whole of DC and began remaking it in his own
image.
Who says DC isn't packin a cosmic punch. 🙂
*note* Well, at least in Marvel if you can destroy/erase All Reality and re-create/make it,
then you're/were basically a Supreme being at the time of said capability.
If Parallax trully destroyed "All of DC" ...
and Spectre was able to defeat him without stipulations,
then that's a feat note worthy of the LT.
Because it's the mind jarring representational idealism of "one who is above Gods" ...
Originally posted by Galan007We GET it... You like Marvel better.
Originally posted by Galan007Team 1 ftw.
Just more unprovable opinions, although respected nonetheless. 😄
Originally posted by Mr Master
Who's "THE God?" ... The Presence?If so, they're equal to the Presence right?
How did the Word defeat beings that can grant others the power of God?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Also, since they gave Swamp Thing a power equal to,
this means ST is also = to the Presence right?
No.
Originally posted by Mr Master
How many characters exactly are = to the Presence over at DC?
All the theories have holes. There's evidence for and against. DC's always been vague on the subject (on purpose, IMO).
Originally posted by Mr MasterMaybe, maybe not. It's not meant to be clear.
Wait, and Primal Monitor is above all this, including the Presence?
Originally posted by Mr MasterMxy < The Presence. He did not wipe out any Supreme Beings.
But they're also Mxy, who destroyed the "whole" of DC,
how many Supreme Beings did he wipe out since they're are several over at DC?
Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm honestly not trying to be sarcastic,
I'm actually interested in the explanations to make this fit.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool, so this means Parallax was also a "Supreme Being" and
Spectre proved to be above this by stomping him.
Parallax was most certainly not a Supreme Being. There are literally dozens of characters that have had the power to destroy and recreate universes. They are not Supreme. Reed was not supreme when he remade the Marvel Multiverse with the UN, was he?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Who says DC isn't packin a cosmic punch. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
*note* Well, at least in Marvel if you can destroy/erase All Reality and re-create/make it,
then you're/were basically a Supreme being at the time of said capability.
Originally posted by Mr Master
If Parallax trully destroyed "All of DC" ...
and Spectre was able to defeat him without stipulations,
then that's a feat note worthy of the LT.
Originally posted by Cogito
ST was not equal to the Presence, and neither were the elemental parliments. There is only, and can only, be one omnipotent. Others can come close, but never match. If the Elemental Parliments were equal to the Presence, then an aspect of the Presence wouldn't have been able to win.
But don't take that to mean top tiers aren't still powerful in their own right.No.
One to two, perhaps. Elaine at the end of the Lucifer run after God decided to leave creation. Then Primal Monitor is an obvious grey area. There's been a million theories floated around, from the PM being greater than the Presence to the PM being the Presence:
The Presence/God = The Presence to humans
The Source = The Presence to the New Gods
The Primal Monitor = The Presence to the MonitorsAll the theories have holes. There's evidence for and against. DC's always been vague on the subject (on purpose, IMO).
Maybe, maybe not. It's not meant to be clear.
Mxy < The Presence. He did not wipe out any Supreme Beings.
There are no explanations. Roll with whatever theory you like best.
Parallax was most certainly not a Supreme Being. There are literally dozens of characters that have had the power to destroy and recreate universes. They are not Supreme. Reed was not supreme when he remade the Marvel Multiverse with the UN, was he?
Nobody? 😕
I would strongly disagree with this statement.
First, the Spectre did not stomp him. That's a reach if I ever saw one. Second, the Spectre is a beast. He gets little credit on these boards because of low showings like DoV (which a surprising number of people believe to be his highest showing).
👆 That's actually a REALLY good explanation of DC cosmology if I've ever heard one.
Originally posted by Mr MasterDo I seriously need to post scans to PROVE why Spectre wins? If you know anything about him, I really shouldn't have to.Team 2 ftw ... Team 1 ftw ... Eternity solos ... Spectre solos ... etc.
Just more unprovable opinions, although respected nonetheless. 😄
And I didn't respond to your other 'points' because.... I really shouldn't have to. If need be, I can more thoroughly explain that statement. 🙂
