Originally posted by carver9
You told me you didn't have time to do a BZ due to school.
Never said that but you can search the thread for a quote if you want:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=561272&pagenumber=1
I repeat, when do you want to have your battlezone?
Originally posted by carver9I believe Thor can hit hard and put that much energy into his attack at the same time, yes.
Do you honestly believe Thor can hit someone so hard that it would create a lightning bolt that big. Let's get real here. There was more involved with that attack than just pure physical strength.
No one said it was just physical strength. Overpowered doesn't mean "using only physical strength"
Learn to read
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your shit is just a blur sometimes tbh.I asked you first. Doesn't have to be accurate, give me some type of estimate. I want to know how much you think beating up Hulk for two pages impacted his power levels and makes up for the disparity in showings. Let's not forget that he can and was absorbing Thor's own energy.
He fought Hulk and even though he dominated Hulk, Hulk did land some attacks. He then fought Hulk again, the same...Hulk landed some attacks but got dominated until Thor came. Rulk fought an amped Thor...the same Thor that ripped through the destroyer armor with ease. The same Thor that defeated Bor, a skyfather...he fought this Thor and took two full fledged hammer shots to the face along with a powered up hammer shot to the stomach. Thor was surprised that he withstood the attacks so he must've put some force behind his attacks.
He then leaves Thor on the moon and falls face first on Earth all the way from the moon (this is where the overheating begins). He fights hulk, gets punched on. I say he was at least 60%.
Originally posted by carver9
He fought Hulk and even though he dominated Hulk, Hulk did land some attacks. He then fought Hulk again, the same...Hulk landed some attacks but got dominated until Thor came. Rulk fought an amped Thor...the same Thor that ripped through the destroyer armor with ease. The same Thor that defeated Bor, a skyfather...he fought this Thor and took two full fledged hammer shots to the face along with a powered up hammer shot to the stomach. Thor was surprised that he withstood the attacks so he must've put some force behind his attacks.He then leaves Thor on the moon and falls face first on Earth all the way from the moon (this is where the overheating begins). He fights hulk, gets punched on. I say he was at least 60%.
You would have a legitimate argument if it wasn't for the fact that Rulk has the ability to absorb energy and use it to augment his might significantly. I'm pretty sure that Rulk was intended to have absorbed some of Hulk's energy during their first fight (Which is probably the reason why he broke his arm and chocked him out so easily). On top of that, he beat the shit out of the Watcher right before that and absorbed/stored his energy as well.
60%? Well seeing as how his Hulk encounter amounted to him beating the shit out of the poor bastard and he had just fed on Thor's power, I find that pretty suspect.
You want to explain away his defeat through exhaustion but it was made very clear that he overheated, he didn't get tired. Imo? Thor simply stepped up his game, Loeb certainly believed that Thor could beat down Rulk straight up if he got his bearings, why can't you?
You need to stop making shit up, especially about Thor. He wasn't ripping through the Destroyer. If you think Thor was on the same level as when he fought Bor, then I can't help you.
What makes you think the overheating began when he jumped off of the moon? He always gives off extreme heat to varying degrees (As seen in the She-Hulk/Iron Man scene where they find his foot print) but it seems to need to be at a certain level to have a noticeable effect.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Yikes, how did this whole Nul vs Thor incident come about again?
I saw someone arguing that Rulk is above the Thor that fought Bor because technically at the time he had the Odin Force. I was just laying bait to make a point but it kind of got lost with all the carver replies.
No one's really going to argue that Nul is above World Breaker Hulk (His around World War Hulk level or slightly above imo), but I find it kind of funny that some people are so set on accepting a set of rules when it suits them but dismissing them when they don't.
the most suspect thing is the fact that red hulk beat thor's ass, but then thor got him in round two, the explanation was that red hulk absorbed his power but somehow forgot how to do that minutes (maybe an hour) later when thor came back for revenge. not buying it. that was obviously thrown in to soothe the thor fans.
red hulk can't even absorb magic, and even if he could, absorbing odin-force should allow him to you know...not get his ass kicked by thor/hulk right after doing it.
Originally posted by psycho gundamRulk used Thor's hammer initially to best Thor. Thor came back with a full heart and beat the snot from him. Loeb had Rulk all over the map so don't act like it had anything to do with Thor. It's Loeb.
the most suspect thing is the fact that red hulk beat thor's ass, but then thor got him in round two, the explanation was that red hulk absorbed his power but somehow forgot how to do that minutes (maybe an hour) later when thor came back for revenge. not buying it. that was obviously thrown in to soothe the thor fans.red hulk can't even absorb magic, and even if he could, absorbing odin-force should allow him to you know...not get his ass kicked by thor/hulk right after doing it.
i was with you till the last part. phucking DUH it was loeb. he probably went "oh shit...my bad" and put a retraction of sorts to soothe thor stans from the previous issue, which is totally understandable given it was thor holding odin-force and coming off of some of his greatest victories against guys he had trouble with for decades.
red hulk took a steamy shit in thor's helmet and rammed it on top of his head with a shit-eater grin on his face basically.
there is so much wrong with what he did, that reason he gave doesn't cut it. red hulk beat that ass, then got it back in the next issue and it made more sense until he tried to explain it away.
Originally posted by psycho gundamRulk absorbed his power and used his own hammer. In the next fight he didn't do so and was whipped on. Rulk had the benefit of being an unfamiliar opponent in the first fight which clearly gave him the element of surprise which wasn't there for round 2.
i was with you till the last part. phucking DUH it was loeb. he probably went "oh shit...my bad" and put a retraction of sorts to soothe thor stans from the previous issue, which is totally understandable given it was thor holding odin-force and coming off of some of his greatest victories against guys he had trouble with for decades.red hulk took a steamy shit in thor's helmet and rammed it on top of his head with a shit-eater grin on his face basically.
there is so much wrong with what he did, that reason he gave doesn't cut it. red hulk beat that ass, then got it back in the next issue and it made more sense until he tried to explain it away.
Who cares if he beat that ass Thor beat that ass in round 2.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk absorbed his power and used his own hammer. In the next fight he didn't do so and was whipped on. Rulk had the benefit of being an unfamiliar opponent in the first fight which clearly gave him the element of surprise which wasn't there for round 2.
Originally posted by quanchi112you rebutted you own point for me 👆
Who cares if he beat that ass Thor beat that ass in round 2.
Originally posted by janus77Standard Thor is >>>>>>>> Rulk.
Still no getting away from the fact that WBH is >>>>>>> Rulk (Loebforce or not) and thus above OF Thor's league.
Look at their next encounter when Thor goes all I'm not the god of reasoning and logic I'm the god of Thunder and Lighnting on Rulk
He was laying the smack down.
Plus you have the Angrir example where Rulk got decimated by Worthy thing and Thor one shot killed the same person...
So Standard Thor is >>> Rulk now.
OF Thor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standard Thor
OFThor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBH
Originally posted by Newjak
Standard Thor is >>>>>>>> Rulk.Look at their next encounter when Thor goes all I'm not the god of reasoning and logic I'm the god of Thunder and Lighnting on Rulk
He was laying the smack down.
Plus you have the Angrir example where Rulk got decimated by Worthy thing and Thor one shot killed the same person...
So Standard Thor is >>> Rulk now.
OF Thor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standard Thor
OFThor is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBH
I would give this version of Hulk the majority over Thor. WBH isn't even needed.
http://m980.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/ankur2292/IncredibleHulk611005.jpg.html?o=77
Originally posted by Naija boyKing Thor beat Hulk and Thing dead with one arm, and lacking the Odin Force.
From what was displayed on panel not at all really presuming you are talking about reboot Thor.
Also OF thor after coming back took a hit from Bor that would have destroyed Classic Thor in one shot, that is >>>>>>> what WBH could do.
Even amped Worthy Hulk couldn't do that to standard Thor.
Originally posted by Newjak
King Thor beat Hulk and Thing dead with one arm, and lacking the Odin Force.Also OF thor after coming back took a hit from Bor that would have destroyed Classic Thor in one shot, that is >>>>>>> what WBH could do.
Even amped Worthy Hulk couldn't do that to standard Thor.
King Thor>>>OF Thor.
You don't know what WBH is capable of when it comes to tagging Heralds. Outside of statements, Bor doesn't hit harder than WBH. People on the Dark Avengers (including Daken) was withstanding hits from a pissed Bor.
Amped Worthy Hulk is around WWH level. He is no WBH.
