Originally posted by CosmicComet
No.He did not 'dominate' Thanos by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was there anything indicating that he was somehow going easy on him power output wise--especially not when you take the dialogue of Odin lauding Thanos as a very worthy opponent and bringing out Gugnir to demonstrate how serious he was about it.
This is how the point by point break down went:
1. Odin blasts Thanos first one-handed. Thanos stands there unphased. (don't care if someone argues a force field, irrelevant. thought it was neither mentioned nor outright displayed)
2. Thanos and Surfer blasts Odin together, Odin quickly eliminates Surfer, showings his influence in the fight was minor.
3. Odin blasts thanos again with two hands, this blast is slightly more effective as Thanos somewhat unbalanced, still standing easily but one foot above the ground.
4. Thanos charges at Odin, can't tell if he missed with the punch or Odin blocked with his charged up wrist or what, as there is nothing to indicate exactly in the scan but anyway Odin blasts Thanos away from close quarters.
5. Thanos is up standing immediately and casually, suit and himself completely undamaged. Odin is surprised that Thanos is alive. Thanos blasts Odin two handed and this blast is felt clearly by the skyfather as he is forced to put his arms up to block it, but the impact is still clearly pushing his upperbody back. --More or less this blast and its subsequent effect is on par with the two handed blast Odin shot at Thanos at number 3.
6. Odin sends some asteroids at Thanos, while telling the titan that Thanos taps into a nearly limitless source of power, and notes that he himself is connected to a 'similar reserve' of power. Thanos easily busts up those asteroids while they are verbally jousting. This statement outright admits that he and Thanos both have a power source/reserves of similar power. I don't care how anyone else tries to finagle a different interpretation out of it, its right there on the page.
7. Some more talking, Thanos traps Odin in a block of pure force. Odin uses eye beams to weaken it enough to break out.
8. Odin gets serious and brings out Gugnir. Blasts Thanos with it. Thanos goes flying into some buildings in Asgard. Thanos gets up immediately, not a scratch on him or his suit, and he isn't talking as if he was taxed by the blast at all.
9. Thanos trudges through a second, more continuous blast. Odin has both of his hands on Gugnir's shaft, about two-thirds up it. Thanos grabs Gugnir with one hand, just below the blade.
10. Odin and Thanos have a bit of a struggle over the spear and then he sends them flying while they are both holding on to it and they land with an explosion, finally Thanos' grip is off it and can be considered the 'loser' after this point.
For the last point, the important thing to note here is that Odin was not able to simply rip Gugnir out of Thanos' grasp despite Odin using both hands and having better leverage since he's holding it past the middle of the shaft, and while Thanos used only hand the whole time, had inferior leverage, and was weakened by the blast itself.
How was it a 'domination' if Odin did no actual damage whatsoever prior to bringing out Gugnir, and prior to its usage was engaged in trading a few moves with Thanos in which neither were able to actually affect the other? Furthermore, he basically outright states that they have access to similar power levels, and he praises Thanos as a warrior. It was not casual nor one-sided nor a domination in the least.
It's a faulty interpretation. It was a good fight. And a fight in which Thanos showed great physical strength against a skyfather as well.
It wouldn't be domination if Odin was amped by gungrir, but from what I understand, he isn't. You'd have to ask Rage about that tbh, because I'm sure there's context there. Anyway, the fact still stands that Odin was literally standing over thanos unphased, and giving him the chance to give up. I don't think that someone like Odin would give someone that he considered a legitimate threat to his safety such a chance. He didn't do it to Mangog or Seth iirc.
Also, just because their power reserves are similar, doesn't imply that they have equal access to them. I'm sure that the same could be said of Surfer and Odin, and certainly the same could obviously be said of Thor and Odin, but Odin will still beat either every time. This is not to say that surfer or thor are comparable to Thanos in any way power-wise, just that similar reservoirs do not equate to comparable power output. That's all I'm saying.
Originally posted by Sirius77
It wouldn't be domination if Odin was amped by gungrir, but from what I understand, he isn't. You'd have to ask Rage about that tbh, because I'm sure there's context there. Anyway, the fact still stands that Odin was literally standing over thanos unphased, and giving him the chance to give up. I don't think that someone like Odin would give someone that he considered a legitimate threat to his safety such a chance. He didn't do it to Mangog or Seth iirc.Also, just because their power reserves are similar, doesn't imply that they have equal access to them. I'm sure that the same could be said of Surfer and Odin, and certainly the same could obviously be said of Thor and Odin, but Odin will still beat either every time. This is not to say that surfer or thor are comparable to Thanos in any way power-wise, just that similar reservoirs do not equate to comparable power output. That's all I'm
saying.
The point was that Odin didn't stomp or dominate Thanos, he was winning but it was no where near a stomp. Domination would be what happened when Hulk tried to fight Zeus. With Thanos, at the very end he got right back up, looked Odin in the eye and refused th yield. At best he had scratches on his suit, but didn't have any lasting damage, unlike Hulk after his fight with Zeus.
Originally posted by CosmicCometOwnage of the highest.
No.He did not 'dominate' Thanos by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was there anything indicating that he was somehow going easy on him power output wise--especially not when you take the dialogue of Odin lauding Thanos as a very worthy opponent and bringing out Gugnir to demonstrate how serious he was about it.
This is how the point by point break down went:
1. Odin blasts Thanos first one-handed. Thanos stands there unphased. (don't care if someone argues a force field, irrelevant. thought it was neither mentioned nor outright displayed)
2. Thanos and Surfer blasts Odin together, Odin quickly eliminates Surfer, showings his influence in the fight was minor.
3. Odin blasts thanos again with two hands, this blast is slightly more effective as Thanos somewhat unbalanced, still standing easily but one foot above the ground.
4. Thanos charges at Odin, can't tell if he missed with the punch or Odin blocked with his charged up wrist or what, as there is nothing to indicate exactly in the scan but anyway Odin blasts Thanos away from close quarters.
5. Thanos is up standing immediately and casually, suit and himself completely undamaged. Odin is surprised that Thanos is alive. Thanos blasts Odin two handed and this blast is felt clearly by the skyfather as he is forced to put his arms up to block it, but the impact is still clearly pushing his upperbody back. --More or less this blast and its subsequent effect is on par with the two handed blast Odin shot at Thanos at number 3.
6. Odin sends some asteroids at Thanos, while telling the titan that Thanos taps into a nearly limitless source of power, and notes that he himself is connected to a 'similar reserve' of power. Thanos easily busts up those asteroids while they are verbally jousting. This statement outright admits that he and Thanos both have a power source/reserves of similar power. I don't care how anyone else tries to finagle a different interpretation out of it, its right there on the page.
7. Some more talking, Thanos traps Odin in a block of pure force. Odin uses eye beams to weaken it enough to break out.
8. Odin gets serious and brings out Gugnir. Blasts Thanos with it. Thanos goes flying into some buildings in Asgard. Thanos gets up immediately, not a scratch on him or his suit, and he isn't talking as if he was taxed by the blast at all.
9. Thanos trudges through a second, more continuous blast. Odin has both of his hands on Gugnir's shaft, about two-thirds up it. Thanos grabs Gugnir with one hand, just below the blade.
10. Odin and Thanos have a bit of a struggle over the spear and then he sends them flying while they are both holding on to it and they land with an explosion, finally Thanos' grip is off it and can be considered the 'loser' after this point.
For the last point, the important thing to note here is that Odin was not able to simply rip Gugnir out of Thanos' grasp despite Odin using both hands and having better leverage since he's holding it past the middle of the shaft, and while Thanos used only hand the whole time, had inferior leverage, and was weakened by the blast itself.
How was it a 'domination' if Odin did no actual damage whatsoever prior to bringing out Gugnir, and prior to its usage was engaged in trading a few moves with Thanos in which neither were able to actually affect the other? Furthermore, he basically outright states that they have access to similar power levels, and he praises Thanos as a warrior. It was not casual nor one-sided nor a domination in the least.
It's a faulty interpretation. It was a good fight. And a fight in which Thanos showed great physical strength against a skyfather as well.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
No.He did not 'dominate' Thanos by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was there anything indicating that he was somehow going easy on him power output wise--especially not when you take the dialogue of Odin lauding Thanos as a very worthy opponent and bringing out Gugnir to demonstrate how serious he was about it.
This is how the point by point break down went:
1. Odin blasts Thanos first one-handed. Thanos stands there unphased. (don't care if someone argues a force field, irrelevant. thought it was neither mentioned nor outright displayed)
2. Thanos and Surfer blasts Odin together, Odin quickly eliminates Surfer, showings his influence in the fight was minor.
3. Odin blasts thanos again with two hands, this blast is slightly more effective as Thanos somewhat unbalanced, still standing easily but one foot above the ground.
4. Thanos charges at Odin, can't tell if he missed with the punch or Odin blocked with his charged up wrist or what, as there is nothing to indicate exactly in the scan but anyway Odin blasts Thanos away from close quarters.
5. Thanos is up standing immediately and casually, suit and himself completely undamaged. Odin is surprised that Thanos is alive. Thanos blasts Odin two handed and this blast is felt clearly by the skyfather as he is forced to put his arms up to block it, but the impact is still clearly pushing his upperbody back. --More or less this blast and its subsequent effect is on par with the two handed blast Odin shot at Thanos at number 3.
6. Odin sends some asteroids at Thanos, while telling the titan that Thanos taps into a nearly limitless source of power, and notes that he himself is connected to a 'similar reserve' of power. Thanos easily busts up those asteroids while they are verbally jousting. This statement outright admits that he and Thanos both have a power source/reserves of similar power. I don't care how anyone else tries to finagle a different interpretation out of it, its right there on the page.
7. Some more talking, Thanos traps Odin in a block of pure force. Odin uses eye beams to weaken it enough to break out.
8. Odin gets serious and brings out Gugnir. Blasts Thanos with it. Thanos goes flying into some buildings in Asgard. Thanos gets up immediately, not a scratch on him or his suit, and he isn't talking as if he was taxed by the blast at all.
9. Thanos trudges through a second, more continuous blast. Odin has both of his hands on Gugnir's shaft, about two-thirds up it. Thanos grabs Gugnir with one hand, just below the blade.
10. Odin and Thanos have a bit of a struggle over the spear and then he sends them flying while they are both holding on to it and they land with an explosion, finally Thanos' grip is off it and can be considered the 'loser' after this point.
For the last point, the important thing to note here is that Odin was not able to simply rip Gugnir out of Thanos' grasp despite Odin using both hands and having better leverage since he's holding it past the middle of the shaft, and while Thanos used only hand the whole time, had inferior leverage, and was weakened by the blast itself.
How was it a 'domination' if Odin did no actual damage whatsoever prior to bringing out Gugnir, and prior to its usage was engaged in trading a few moves with Thanos in which neither were able to actually affect the other? Furthermore, he basically outright states that they have access to similar power levels, and he praises Thanos as a warrior. It was not casual nor one-sided nor a domination in the least.
It's a faulty interpretation. It was a good fight. And a fight in which Thanos showed great physical strength against a skyfather as well.
Spot on. Due to anit-thanos sentiment caused by some of his more extreme fans, many people just bastardize the interpretation of that scene in order to belittle thanos. It wasnt a stalemate of course but it wasnt domination by any means.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeOdin was bracing for his attacks and neither's attacks were doing anything significantly to the other until the gungir blast which Thanos waded through.
Hmm, not rly, Thanos couldn't do anything to Odin, while Odin was always the one controlling the fight. It's quite obvious imho opinion, that he was the more powerful one.
My opinion is based on what I saw the other Thanos haters (due to me because I'm in their heads) is just an attempt to get to me. Naija called it.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hmm, not rly, Thanos couldn't do anything to Odin, while Odin was always the one controlling the fight. It's quite obvious imho opinion, that he was the more powerful one.
Plus Odin wasn't cutting lose, Odin was still holding back against Thanos. This is Odin we are talking about, if wanted too bust Thanos head wide open he could have and pretty damn easily, IMO!
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hmm, not rly, Thanos couldn't do anything to Odin, while Odin was always the one controlling the fight. It's quite obvious imho opinion, that he was the more powerful one.
Exactly, Thanos fanboys just can't seem to handle the fact that their boy got his butt handed to him.
Originally posted by CosmicCometYes it was complete domination Thanos was a smoking pile of crazy while Odin was standing there without a scratch on his person no longer considering Thanos a threat he let him get up
No.He did not 'dominate' Thanos by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was there anything indicating that he was somehow going easy on him power output wise--especially not when you take the dialogue of Odin lauding Thanos as a very worthy opponent and bringing out Gugnir to demonstrate how serious he was about it.
This is how the point by point break down went:
1. Odin blasts Thanos first one-handed. Thanos stands there unphased. (don't care if someone argues a force field, irrelevant. thought it was neither mentioned nor outright displayed)
2. Thanos and Surfer blasts Odin together, Odin quickly eliminates Surfer, showings his influence in the fight was minor.
3. Odin blasts thanos again with two hands, this blast is slightly more effective as Thanos somewhat unbalanced, still standing easily but one foot above the ground.
4. Thanos charges at Odin, can't tell if he missed with the punch or Odin blocked with his charged up wrist or what, as there is nothing to indicate exactly in the scan but anyway Odin blasts Thanos away from close quarters.
5. Thanos is up standing immediately and casually, suit and himself completely undamaged. Odin is surprised that Thanos is alive. Thanos blasts Odin two handed and this blast is felt clearly by the skyfather as he is forced to put his arms up to block it, but the impact is still clearly pushing his upperbody back. --More or less this blast and its subsequent effect is on par with the two handed blast Odin shot at Thanos at number 3.
6. Odin sends some asteroids at Thanos, while telling the titan that Thanos taps into a nearly limitless source of power, and notes that he himself is connected to a 'similar reserve' of power. Thanos easily busts up those asteroids while they are verbally jousting. This statement outright admits that he and Thanos both have a power source/reserves of similar power. I don't care how anyone else tries to finagle a different interpretation out of it, its right there on the page.
7. Some more talking, Thanos traps Odin in a block of pure force. Odin uses eye beams to weaken it enough to break out.
8. Odin gets serious and brings out Gugnir. Blasts Thanos with it. Thanos goes flying into some buildings in Asgard. Thanos gets up immediately, not a scratch on him or his suit, and he isn't talking as if he was taxed by the blast at all.
9. Thanos trudges through a second, more continuous blast. Odin has both of his hands on Gugnir's shaft, about two-thirds up it. Thanos grabs Gugnir with one hand, just below the blade.
10. Odin and Thanos have a bit of a struggle over the spear and then he sends them flying while they are both holding on to it and they land with an explosion, finally Thanos' grip is off it and can be considered the 'loser' after this point.
For the last point, the important thing to note here is that Odin was not able to simply rip Gugnir out of Thanos' grasp despite Odin using both hands and having better leverage since he's holding it past the middle of the shaft, and while Thanos used only hand the whole time, had inferior leverage, and was weakened by the blast itself.
How was it a 'domination' if Odin did no actual damage whatsoever prior to bringing out Gugnir, and prior to its usage was engaged in trading a few moves with Thanos in which neither were able to actually affect the other? Furthermore, he basically outright states that they have access to similar power levels, and he praises Thanos as a warrior. It was not casual nor one-sided nor a domination in the least.
It's a faulty interpretation. It was a good fight. And a fight in which Thanos showed great physical strength against a skyfather as well.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
No.He did not 'dominate' Thanos by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was there anything indicating that he was somehow going easy on him power output wise--especially not when you take the dialogue of Odin lauding Thanos as a very worthy opponent and bringing out Gugnir to demonstrate how serious he was about it.
This is how the point by point break down went:
1. Odin blasts Thanos first one-handed. Thanos stands there unphased. (don't care if someone argues a force field, irrelevant. thought it was neither mentioned nor outright displayed)
2. Thanos and Surfer blasts Odin together, Odin quickly eliminates Surfer, showings his influence in the fight was minor.
3. Odin blasts thanos again with two hands, this blast is slightly more effective as Thanos somewhat unbalanced, still standing easily but one foot above the ground.
4. Thanos charges at Odin, can't tell if he missed with the punch or Odin blocked with his charged up wrist or what, as there is nothing to indicate exactly in the scan but anyway Odin blasts Thanos away from close quarters.
5. Thanos is up standing immediately and casually, suit and himself completely undamaged. Odin is surprised that Thanos is alive. Thanos blasts Odin two handed and this blast is felt clearly by the skyfather as he is forced to put his arms up to block it, but the impact is still clearly pushing his upperbody back. --More or less this blast and its subsequent effect is on par with the two handed blast Odin shot at Thanos at number 3.
6. Odin sends some asteroids at Thanos, while telling the titan that Thanos taps into a nearly limitless source of power, and notes that he himself is connected to a 'similar reserve' of power. Thanos easily busts up those asteroids while they are verbally jousting. This statement outright admits that he and Thanos both have a power source/reserves of similar power. I don't care how anyone else tries to finagle a different interpretation out of it, its right there on the page.
7. Some more talking, Thanos traps Odin in a block of pure force. Odin uses eye beams to weaken it enough to break out.
8. Odin gets serious and brings out Gugnir. Blasts Thanos with it. Thanos goes flying into some buildings in Asgard. Thanos gets up immediately, not a scratch on him or his suit, and he isn't talking as if he was taxed by the blast at all.
9. Thanos trudges through a second, more continuous blast. Odin has both of his hands on Gugnir's shaft, about two-thirds up it. Thanos grabs Gugnir with one hand, just below the blade.
10. Odin and Thanos have a bit of a struggle over the spear and then he sends them flying while they are both holding on to it and they land with an explosion, finally Thanos' grip is off it and can be considered the 'loser' after this point.
For the last point, the important thing to note here is that Odin was not able to simply rip Gugnir out of Thanos' grasp despite Odin using both hands and having better leverage since he's holding it past the middle of the shaft, and while Thanos used only hand the whole time, had inferior leverage, and was weakened by the blast itself.
How was it a 'domination' if Odin did no actual damage whatsoever prior to bringing out Gugnir, and prior to its usage was engaged in trading a few moves with Thanos in which neither were able to actually affect the other? Furthermore, he basically outright states that they have access to similar power levels, and he praises Thanos as a warrior. It was not casual nor one-sided nor a domination in the least.
It's a faulty interpretation. It was a good fight. And a fight in which Thanos showed great physical strength against a skyfather as well.
The fight ended with Odin looking unhurt and fresh, while Thanos needed 7 panels just to stand up.