One planet, one religion

Started by StyleTime6 pages

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No. Best religion could mean the ''correct'' religion. Most favourable to live in isn't necessarily the best religion, but it may have the most favourable practices in terms of community.

If Satanism is comprised of people who value Satan as a 'rebel' and insists that all should be free to do whatever they want, wear whatever they want, eat whatever they want, but at every full moon sacrifice chickens or some other weird shit in a field, doesn't make their religion the best, but the living conditions most favourable to certain people.

Equally, certain individuals may like eating meat, but being on a Buddhist planet, killing animals for food isn't going to be practised (or killing of anything for that matter) and there may be many other social measures which may be implemented that may not suit certian individuals.
We could possibly assume that there wouldn't be as much oppression as it would on an Islamic planet.

That doesn't mean Buddhism the ''best religion'' but it certainly makes it a better living planet than an Islamic one.

Again, this would be up to an individual - certain persons may feel that living in a polygamous society would be more comfortable or what not, and Buddhist planet would be boring.

In short, no, it's not about the ''best religion''.


It may just be a semantic issue, but that sounds awfully similar to how someone selects the "best".
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well...I think it is more like, "Which religion do you think is best as a single-global religion?"

It's at least this.

It's not a bad thing of course. May as well go for the "best" if you're on a planet of exclusively that.

On the issue of Satanism, there are so many flavors/sects with next to no relation to one another that I don't even recognize it most of the time.

On one hand you have the branch of Satanism that is really just Christianity with a skewed locus (indulgence rather than abstinence, Satan in place of God/Jesus) while on the other you have the insane branch of devil worshipers who sacrifice animals and possibly people. Then between them you have the Nordic Satanists who perversely worship Satan as a kind of gateway to getting rid of God and returning to the Old Norse Gods (no really, look it up, there are some Black Metal musicians who actually believe this).

To me, most Satanists are people who would be atheist or agnostic but crave some form of ritual/spirituality and think Satan is cooler than Buddha or the Dao.

I'd like to have a conversation with a real Satanist though to pick their brain and find out why they believe what they believe (not the Type 2 satanist though, I'll steer clear of them)

Originally posted by StyleTime
It may just be a semantic issue, but that sounds awfully similar to how someone selects the "best".

It's at least this.

It's not a bad thing of course. May as well go for the "best" if you're on a planet of exclusively that.

How's this?
I select ''the best'' religion for me based on how it spiritually fulfils me and how much sense it makes not what I'm allowed to do in their society. Other people may have a different criterion.

Besides, saying 'best' religion is just ridiculous, hence, having many planets with different ones to chose. It's ridiculous because each person needs something different from a religion in order to be spiritually fulfilled, so like I said, it's the reason for many planets having different religion, as opposed to me asking ''which religion do you think would be best for planet earth''.

Religion is a personal choice, so the question is actually amongst which people would you prefer to live.
This in no way is asking 'which religion is the best'.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Religion is a personal choice, so the question is actually amongst which people would you prefer to live.
In that case...meditators versed in scientific method who seek peace, knowledge and freedom; and for the sake of balance, occasionally like to roughhouse and get their freak on.

Originally posted by Mindship
In that case...meditators versed in scientific method who seek peace, knowledge and freedom; and for the sake of balance, occasionally like to roughhouse and get their freak on.

Nice. I'd totally live on that planet. Actually, they might be the first to gain the ability to investigate other planets...zomfg, i should write a story about this or something. It's all coming together.

What about the least?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What about the least?
Not sure. Which planet has the most ignorant and brutal dogmatists, with bumper sticker commandments, especially 'Do as I say, not as I do'?

Originally posted by Mindship
Not sure. Which planet has the most ignorant and brutal dogmatists, with bumper sticker commandments, especially 'Do as I say, not as I do'?

Most of them.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
How's this?
I select ''the best'' religion for me based on how it spiritually fulfils me and how much sense it makes not what I'm allowed to do in their society. Other people may have a different criterion.

Besides, saying 'best' religion is just ridiculous, hence, having many planets with different ones to chose. It's ridiculous because each person needs something different from a religion in order to be spiritually fulfilled, so like I said, it's the reason for many planets having different religion, as opposed to me asking ''which religion do you think would be best for planet earth''.

Religion is a personal choice, so the question is actually amongst which people would you prefer to live.
This in no way is asking 'which religion is the best'.


Like I said, it may just be a semantic issue. You're choosing what you feel is the superior option among many choices.

Just sounds like picking the "best" to me, even if it is just for a specific situation. I agree that the "best" may be different for everyone though.

The best is an illusion that always changes.

It could very well be.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Like I said, it may just be a semantic issue. You're choosing what you feel is the superior option among many choices.

Just sounds like picking the "best" to me, even if it is just for a specific situation. I agree that the "best" may be different for everyone though.

Again, no. Please read what I wrote.
There can not be 'the best religion' as religion is personal, so I'm not asking what religion is 'the best' as such thing does not exist.

It's like me asking people: 'if you could only have one type of drink, which one would you drink for the rest of your life' and then you claiming I'm asking 'what drink is the best'. No. I'm asking what is preferable for each person. This is very different to asking what is objectively 'the best'.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
On the issue of Satanism, there are so many flavors/sects with next to no relation to one another that I don't even recognize it most of the time.

On one hand you have the branch of Satanism that is really just Christianity with a skewed locus (indulgence rather than abstinence, Satan in place of God/Jesus) while on the other you have the insane branch of devil worshipers who sacrifice animals and possibly people. Then between them you have the Nordic Satanists who perversely worship Satan as a kind of gateway to getting rid of God and returning to the Old Norse Gods (no really, look it up, there are some Black Metal musicians who actually believe this).

To me, most Satanists are people who would be atheist or agnostic but crave some form of ritual/spirituality and think Satan is cooler than Buddha or the Dao.

I'd like to have a conversation with a real Satanist though to pick their brain and find out why they believe what they believe (not the Type 2 satanist though, I'll steer clear of them)

There's a "third kind" of Satanist that thinks God is actually Satan and the evil one is YHWH, not Lucifer. Meaning, it is the evilness of another god that is getting in the way of the true God and it was the evil and jealously of that God that forced the purges during the nascent Christian centuries.

Here is a nice description, by a secular humanist atheist, of why Satan is actually the good guy:

http://www.daltonator.net/durandal/religion/satan.shtml

And here is a very nice writeup about all sorts of types of Satanism:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/newreply.php?s=&action=newreply&postid=13730340

They conclude in their writing:

"The authors of this pamphlet are founding members of the Church of Azazel, which has a polytheistic theology. We believe that the Christian "God" is not the true cosmic God. To us, the workings of Nature do not suggest that the cosmic creator God desires a personal parental-like relationship with us humans. We believe that the true cosmic God is most likely impersonal, and, therefore, that any god who does relate to humans in a personal way is not the cosmic God. Thus we regard neither the Christian "God" nor Satan as the ultimate God of the universe. We regard Satan as a spirit who rules over the Earth and as a Muse of human innovation."

So they are Deists, Polytheists, and "positive" Satanists.

Even if one is a professed atheist, you can still be a polytheistic: you can believe that the infinite possibility of the universe/multiverse can give birth to many types of godlike beings making you a weak polytheist...just not the strong theistic type. I guess that's more agnostic atheism than true polytheism because it is just entertaining the possibility...not actively believing.

My personal take is that Satan is a righteous part of the overall "plan". I am not sure if he is a real entity or simply a symbol of an idea. Mormons think he is very real and operates on many many different "earths": not just this one. Maybe that's true...but believing that is not essential to my religion nor is it necessary for membership.

One Planet - Earth (or something simular)
One Religion - Islam (No Kaddis)
but with lots of different ethnicities except White People.

I mean they make up around 90% of my country and look at how many problems they cause, i mean they are so full of themselves it's unfvcking believable. And by not having any White people on this utopia there would be no racism at all because we all know racism begins and ends with White people.

Originally posted by majid86
One Planet - Earth (or something simular)
One Religion - Islam (No Kaddis)
but with lots of different ethnicities except White People.

I mean they make up around 90% of my country and look at how many problems they cause, i mean they are so full of themselves it's unfvcking believable. And by not having any White people on this utopia there would be no racism at all because we all know racism begins and ends with White people.

Ether you are being facetious, or you are a racist.

How can i be racist towrds an evil ethnicity?

Originally posted by majid86
How can i be racist towrds an evil ethnicity?

By believing there is an evil ethnicity.

That's total bullsh!t and i dont care how many of you goras get offended.
No white people = No racism

Im so glad that White people will become a minority within the UK and rest of Western Europe within 30 years time.
I guess all those years of screaming 'Pakis Out' didnt work for them.

Originally posted by majid86
That's total bullsh!t and i dont care how many of you goras get offended.
No white people = No racism

So, you are white?

If i was i would kill myself by jumping off a cliff

Originally posted by majid86
If i was i would kill myself by jumping off a cliff

Or you could realize that racism is a form self destructing hate, and decide to change yourself.