Action heroes run the gauntlet.

Originally posted by Psychotron
KO'ing Logan isn't a one-time incident, Sabertooth did it too and the Terminator is stronger and tougher. And where's the proof the cop somehow managed to hit him right in the same spot? Especially since Origins didn't exist back then thus the filmmaker's original intent was to have Wolverine knocked out by a mere bullet. The fact is a strong blow to the head has been proven to knock out Logan on screen. Twice. Also where's the proof Wolverine can easily slice something as durable as the T-850?

When Logan was beat down he had normal bones.

In regards to Wolverine not being able to cut through Terminator lolz. He cut a circle around a steel wall in Origins. Terminators were made out of Titanium which is as durable as steel but lighter. Later Terminators are made of Coltan which is equally as durable but with higher heat resistence.

Logan will cut a Terminators arms off no probs.

Originally posted by the ninjak
When Logan was beat down he had normal bones.

In regards to Wolverine not being able to cut through Terminator lolz. He cut a circle around a steel wall in Origins. Terminators were made out of Titanium which is as durable as steel but lighter. Later Terminators are made of Coltan which is equally as durable but with higher heat resistence.

Logan will cut a Terminators arms off no probs.

No. I'm talking about Sabretooth knocking him out with a tree at the beginning of X1. The Terminator can easily do that. That's if he even bothers. I don't see Logan doing too well against a grenade launcher, or against Rambo's M-60 if a single head shot can drop him. Besides, the Terminator can easily restrain Wolverine if he can grab him. The team has very good chance to win this.

As for the durability issue, The Terminator has taken a lot abuse. More than simple titanium should be able to withstand. I'm not saying it's impossible for Wolverine to cut him, but it will not be easy. The Terminator could take few hits, and use the chance to grab Logan. Then it's game over.

Originally posted by Psychotron
No. I'm talking about Sabretooth knocking him out with a tree at the beginning of X1. The Terminator can easily do that. That's if he even bothers. I don't see Logan doing too well against a grenade launcher, or against Rambo's M-60 if a single head shot can drop him. Besides, the Terminator can easily restrain Wolverine if he can grab him. The team has very good chance to win this.

As for the durability issue, The Terminator has taken a lot abuse. More than simple titanium should be able to withstand. I'm not saying it's impossible for Wolverine to cut him, but it will not be easy. The Terminator could take few hits, and use the chance to grab Logan. Then it's game over.

-I've never seen a Terminator resort to creative use of environment in such a way.
-In regards to the grenade launcher. Logan is running around. Stalking his prey. Those grenades released at cars long distance then exploded. Logan will run and avoid such attacks. Healing as he hit the ground. If the Terminator and friends get too close he just keeps running.
-If the Terminator ever got in the situation where he can GRAB Logan he has already lost arms. Logan has proven that he can cut through more than a humanoid whose exoskeleton is Coltan and has outer flesh that resembles that of humans.

-The early Terminator got put down with shotgun shells. Then got back up after 5 secs of readjusting to the situation. Later Terminators have slightly better resistance. The scene in T3 where he went through structures whilst riding that firetruck was circumstantial. Lots of glass and fiber wood. Logan got pushed through solid trees.

This is the jungle we are dealing with here. It's not going to be so easy.

Originally posted by the ninjak
-I've never seen a Terminator resort to creative use of environment in such a way.
-In regards to the grenade launcher. Logan is running around. Stalking his prey. Those grenades released at cars long distance then exploded. Logan will run and avoid such attacks. Healing as he hit the ground. If the Terminator and friends get too close he just keeps running.
-If the Terminator ever got in the situation where he can GRAB Logan he has already lost arms. Logan has proven that he can cut through more than a humanoid whose exoskeleton is Coltan and has outer flesh that resembles that of humans.

-The early Terminator got put down with shotgun shells. Then got back up after 5 secs of readjusting to the situation. Later Terminators have slightly better resistance. The scene in T3 where he went through structures whilst riding that firetruck was circumstantial. Lots of glass and fiber wood. Logan got pushed through solid trees.

This is the jungle we are dealing with here. It's not going to be so easy.

-No? What about the T-850 smashing the T-X with all kinds of crap, or shocking her with the power cable? How about using the axe to pull the T-X out of the truck?
-Yeah, right. Logan won't be running from them. He's a very direct combatant. He can't dodge Rambo's M-60 even if he can somehow avoid the grenades.
-Right. When when was the last time movie Wolverine cut off anyone's arms? The movie version's fighting style is pure PG-13. If he gets close he'll most likely try to stab him in the gut and then it's game over. And tell me, when have they ever mentioned what the Terminators are made of? Because I'm sure they never mentioned that in the movies.

-The T-800 wasn't put down, just knocked down. There is a difference. It wasn't damaged. The Terminator's best feat is probably surviving the plasma attack, or holding the massive blast door at the end with one arm, despite the weight and the motors trying to close it. Just the weight of that door would have probably turned regular steel into a pancake.

Originally posted by Psychotron
KO'ing Logan isn't a one-time incident, Sabertooth did it too and the Terminator is stronger and tougher. And where's the proof the cop somehow managed to hit him right in the same spot? Especially since Origins didn't exist back then thus the filmmaker's original intent was to have Wolverine knocked out by a mere bullet. The fact is a strong blow to the head has been proven to knock out Logan on screen. Twice. Also where's the proof Wolverine can easily slice something as durable as the T-850?

Sabertooth did it in X-men I by hammering Logan with a tree, I somehow don't see the Terminator utilizing his surroundings in such a manner, as far as Adamantium wolverine goes I think that was the only time he was knocked out by Sabertooth. From what I recall wolverine got shoot in the left side of his head in X men 2 the same place Stryker shoots him with a adamantium bullet in Origins, the fact that Origins is made later doesn't change the fact that it's story is before the X men trilogy. Hence what happened there have a effect on what occured afterwards.

But by all means we can say that it was the film makers intend, the problem is still that 1. we have this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVSnDOWR7VI&feature=related 1:48 where Logan tanks a bullet to the head without being KO. 2. Somehow you have to explain why a ordinary bullet was capable of entering the skull of a guy that is covered in a indestructable metal.

The T-850 uses plenty of shit around him like I already said. Just because Sabretooth only did it once doesn't mean he can't do it again. And that theory that the bullet managed to somehow hit the exact same spot as the one in origins is pure speculation. Especially since the filmmakers clearly intended otherwise. Clearly the normal bullet didn't penetrate his skull, it probably gave him concussion or something. You don't need have you skull cracked or broken to have your brain scrambled. How many times does Wolverine need to be knocked out before people admit he isn't immortal? Was he also faking his fight with lady deathstrike? All this is assuming things will get up close and personal, it's far more likely the grenade launcher and the M-60 will **** Logan up before he gets within slicing range.

Originally posted by Psychotron
-No? What about the T-850 smashing the T-X with all kinds of crap, or shocking her with the power cable? How about using the axe to pull the T-X out of the truck?
-Yeah, right. Logan won't be running from them. He's a very direct combatant. He can't dodge Rambo's M-60 even if he can somehow avoid the grenades.
-Right. When when was the last time movie Wolverine cut off anyone's arms? The movie version's fighting style is pure PG-13. If he gets close he'll most likely try to stab him in the gut and then it's game over. And tell me, when have they ever mentioned what the Terminators are made of? Because I'm sure they never mentioned that in the movies.

-The T-800 wasn't put down, just knocked down. There is a difference. It wasn't damaged. The Terminator's best feat is probably surviving the plasma attack, or holding the massive blast door at the end with one arm, despite the weight and the motors trying to close it. Just the weight of that door would have probably turned regular steel into a pancake.

-So! Close range desperation attacks aren't using a fricken tree to smash someone. Very different.
-Of course he's going to stalk them. It's a fricken jungle. And even if he jumps at em he'll do when he has the best advantage of attack. Not just run at em in the open. In X3 hid in trees. Once the Terminator sees him in the trees he'll know the Terminator isn't no ordinary man.
-Wolverines killed plenty of people. You wrote the Terminator grabs Logan with the hope of incapacitating him? Once Logan is aware of the Terminators strength and and survival to any previous attempt at being put down. The arms yes. Will come off.

-Read it again. I wrote put down for 5 SECS!
And the horrible 3rd films feats completely ignored the science of the Terminator in all other mediums. The Hulk may be able to lift much more than a Terminator but Logan's claws will still cut him.

Your argument of making Strength comparable to Durability makes no sense.

I think people are using comic wolverine in this match because in the movie he wasn't some super stealthily, highly skilled ninja.

Look at his fights with Mystique and Lady Deathstrike. Also Sabertooth all those times.

In the movies he was a brawler that pretty much went straight ahead and used his healing factor to tank hits.

I don't see Wolverine taking the three down. Number and the Terminators brute strength and heavy weapons are gonna hurt Wolverine based on what we've seen from the movies.

He infiltrated a mutant forest base swarming with mutants. He stalked, came out of a tree killing his prey, then killed the rest.
He wouldn't just run at three men with heavy assault weapons all of a sudden out in open ground.
If he did he would run head first into immense gunfire.

Originally posted by the ninjak
He infiltrated a mutant forest base swarming with mutants. He stalked, came out of a tree killing his prey, then killed the rest.
He wouldn't just run at three men with heavy assault weapons all of a sudden out in open ground.
If he did he would run head first into immense gunfire.

He killed a few guys with what amounts to some decent tactics. although he killed the last guy by straight running into him absorbing his spike attacks. Then took a cloak and walked into the base. Didn't he also get figured out while there to?

I'm not saying he is unskilled, but he isn't the stealthy no one can find or outfight person in the comics. He was found and out fought a couple of times. Only his healing factor, and claws keeping him in fights.

I could see Rambo doing just fine tracking him, along with the terminator who has enhanced vision.

Originally posted by Newjak
You make it sound like he took on the whole base without them ever knowing anything happened.

He killed a few guys with what amounts to some decent tactics. although he killed the last guy by straight running into him absorbing his spike attacks. Then took a cloak and walked into the base. Didn't he also get figured out while there to?

I'm not saying he is unskilled, but he isn't the stealthy no one can find or outfight person in the comics. He was found and out fought a couple of times. Only his healing factor, and claws keeping him in fights.

I could see Rambo doing just fine tracking him, along with the terminator who has enhanced vision.

-Fair enough I should have elaborated some more. He infiltrated a base of mutants via hiding in trees. Waited for the right moment. Killed one then then another. Then took the Marrow ripoff character.

-My point was he used stealth. Made quick kills. He did I agree run at the projectile thrower but if the guy was holding an M60 you would think he readjust his strategy. He's in the Vietnam Jungle in this thread.

-Only Magneto sensed him because of the Adamantium.

-Rambo tracking Logan won't end well. Logan runs, the three walk. Logan can smell em. As I've stated earlier. The Terminators InfraRed vision is there best asset. An asset Logan will realize whilst hiding in a tree and the Terminator just up and aims at him suddenly. That's why Logan will have to go the jungle tactic. Didn't the InfraRed have it's limits? I'm sure Logan can use rocks and lower ground to avoid it.

But I agree if he just runs out at em he's screwed.

Originally posted by the ninjak
-Fair enough I should have elaborated some more. He infiltrated a base of mutants via hiding in trees. Waited for the right moment. Killed one then then another. Then took the Marrow ripoff character.

-My point was he used stealth. Made quick kills. He did I agree run at the projectile thrower but if the guy was holding an M60 you would think he readjust his strategy. He's in the Vietnam Jungle in this thread.

-Only Magneto sensed him because of the Adamantium.

-Rambo tracking Logan won't end well. Logan runs, the three walk. Logan can smell em. As I've stated earlier. The Terminators InfraRed vision is there best asset. An asset Logan will realize whilst hiding in a tree and the Terminator just up and aims at him suddenly. That's why Logan will have to go the jungle tactic. Didn't the InfraRed have it's limits? I'm sure Logan can use rocks and lower ground to avoid it.

-Once again I think you kind of are blowing it out of proportion. Yeah he did use a tree to launch a sneak attack, but basically from what I remember he hid in the tree until the patrol came bye and then he launched a sneak attack from one tree. Took out the handful of guards who weren't particularly powerful. He also still took damage while doing it. Then he walked into the camp wearing a cloak. And it wasn't like this was fort knox here. It looks more like a camping village or something. Nothing high tech or extremely difficult.

-So his one real kind of jungle/sneak/infiltration feat if my memory serves me right consists of him hiding in a tree taking out a handful of guards who didn't seem particularly powerful or skilled then walking to a less than highly guarded camp with very minimal security.

-Compare that with the rest of his fights. He pretty much just gets worked for most of it using his healing factor to keep going until he lands the killing blow.

-The point is he didn't really show any more stealth or fighting ability then what Rambo can do. Yeah he's has his enhanced senses but they weren't that great. I would argue the Terminator probably has better senses.

I just don't see Wolverine really doing much here, he's not the better tracker or stealthy guy in this fight. I don't see him really doing much here. He's not gonna catch anyone here by surprise, and he isn't going to tank a grenade launcher or a full on assault from the mini gun. At least not the movie version of Wolverine.

Originally posted by the ninjak
-So! Close range desperation attacks aren't using a fricken tree to smash someone. Very different.
-Of course he's going to stalk them. It's a fricken jungle. And even if he jumps at em he'll do when he has the best advantage of attack. Not just run at em in the open. In X3 hid in trees. Once the Terminator sees him in the trees he'll know the Terminator isn't no ordinary man.
-Wolverines killed plenty of people. You wrote the Terminator grabs Logan with the hope of incapacitating him? Once Logan is aware of the Terminators strength and and survival to any previous attempt at being put down. The arms yes. Will come off.

-Read it again. I wrote put down for 5 SECS!
And the horrible 3rd films feats completely ignored the science of the Terminator in all other mediums. The Hulk may be able to lift much more than a Terminator but Logan's claws will still cut him.

Your argument of making Strength comparable to Durability makes no sense.

-Yeah, but using gas tanks, urinals, and smashing her through walls are close enough, and there are plenty of trees in the jungle. There's really no reason for him to not use the environment if he wants to. I used the cable as an example of using the environment like you asked.
- And you think Rambo (a man with much more stealth and hunting feats) and the Terminator won't hunt him? Between the T-850's enhanced senses and Rambo's skill, Wolverine will have almost no chance of sneak attacking them. And please tell me how Logan will know the Terminator is no ordinary man? Is he a psychic now?
- I said the T-850 would grab Logan in the unlikely event he gets close enough. He's a brawler and would most likely try to stab the the Terminator in the gut or the chest which probably won't do shit. And then it's ass rape time.

-Okay? So what? The shotgun knocked down an older model without damaging it, how does this help Logan? He's facing a superior model (and two other experienced killers) and he doesn't have a shotgun.
- I wanted to use the T-850 even if T3 does suck. And there are no other canon mediums aside from the films. I honestly hope you're no talking about the abomination that was Sarah Connor Chronicles.
- Surviving the plasma attack is a pure durability feat. Holding the blast door was a strength and durability feat. If he was made of some other, weaker alloy he would have been crushed no matter his strength. And you need to stop comparing movie Logan with comic book Logan, they're not the same. Movie Wolverine has never fought Hulk.

-How am I blowing it out of proportion when I use a movie feat showing him awaiting his prey then launching? And why did you bring up the effectiveness of the mutant camp? I was just explaining the situation. You argued that I made it sound like he took down a whole camp so I elaborated.

-Yep. That and the school infiltration scene in X2 when he took out the first wave of guards.

-Well he's an Xmen in the films they're not meant to kill. But he does it anyway. And yes his healing factor allows him to to get kills in. If Logan is hiding in an under brush and the three walk by, they are in big trouble.

-Rambo ain't leaving the team to go stealth mode. And if he did. Logan's nose will smell him out. And prove the Terminator is better. Whenever you see through the Terminators eyes in the films he doesn't see through walls just with extreme detail and information processing scanning. The original Terminator made it out that he could see through the police precinct but in the gun battle people were surprising him. He just made calculated adjustments while a cop ran behind a wall and followed the his movement to kill him through the wall. In a jungle that can be exploited.

-That's debatable still. Rambo ain't leaving the team. And The Terminators vision is also debatable.

Originally posted by Psychotron
-Yeah, but using gas tanks, urinals, and smashing her through walls are close enough, and there are plenty of trees in the jungle. There's really no reason for him to not use the environment if he wants to. I used the cable as an example of using the environment like you asked.
- And you think Rambo (a man with much more stealth and hunting feats) and the Terminator won't hunt him? Between the T-850's enhanced senses and Rambo's skill, Wolverine will have almost no chance of sneak attacking them. And please tell me how Logan will know the Terminator is no ordinary man? Is he a psychic now?
- I said the T-850 would grab Logan in the unlikely event he gets close enough. He's a brawler and would most likely try to stab the the Terminator in the gut or the chest which probably won't do shit. And then it's ass rape time.

-Okay? So what? The shotgun knocked down an older model without damaging it, how does this help Logan? He's facing a superior model (and two other experienced killers) and he doesn't have a shotgun.
- I wanted to use the T-850 even if T3 does suck. And there are no other canon mediums aside from the films. I honestly hope you're no talking about the abomination that was Sarah Connor Chronicles.
- Surviving the plasma attack is a pure durability feat. Holding the blast door was a strength and durability feat. If he was made of some other, weaker alloy he would have been crushed no matter his strength. And you need to stop comparing movie Logan with comic book Logan, they're not the same. Movie Wolverine has never fought Hulk.

-Huh? That's thug stuff.

-Rambo ain't leaving the team to hunt Logan stealthily. That would fail anyways cause Logan can smell him out. So Rambos stealth skills don't factor in when his on a hunting team. And the Terminators vision is questionable.

-You see this is where it enters What If territory and where this gets really inane. Does Logan go for the guts or the gun. And afterwards does the Terminator punch him. Or grab him by the throat or hand? sigh.

-My original point was both guys had been put down with guns nothing else. You argued that I said it finished him. I wrote back that I originally wrote the Terminator was down for 5 secs. Now you're arguing that Logan doesn't have a gun. sigh.

-I go of what the Terminators have been stated as being made out of in all films and yes the series. Titanium and Coltan. If the engineering genius of Skynet allowed the models to do strength feats beyond what their frames should handle as was evident in the third film great! But my argument was never strength and just the durability of the Terminators frame. Plasma canon was crap. 😄

-I'm not using comic Logan. I just made a point that just because a being is really strong doesn't mean they are really durable. A mortar shrapnel created a flesh wound on the Hulk you would a mutant who carved a circle through a metal wall like paper would cut him too. I shouldn't have even wrote such an obviously throw in the wind comment. Just because you can hold up a large door doesn't mean Logan's claws wont compromise the frame of a Terminator.

So you created a spite thread. Well done. Have fun with it.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The T-850 uses plenty of shit around him like I already said. Just because Sabretooth only did it once doesn't mean he can't do it again. And that theory that the bullet managed to somehow hit the exact same spot as the one in origins is pure speculation. Especially since the filmmakers clearly intended otherwise. Clearly the normal bullet didn't penetrate his skull, it probably gave him concussion or something. You don't need have you skull cracked or broken to have your brain scrambled. How many times does Wolverine need to be knocked out before people admit he isn't immortal? Was he also faking his fight with lady deathstrike? All this is assuming things will get up close and personal, it's far more likely the grenade launcher and the M-60 will **** Logan up before he gets within slicing range.

So the Terminator has a habit of utilizing trees as a baseball bat? Yes it is, but unless you can come up with a more logical reason as to why we see the bullet being pressed out of Wolverines skull again because of his HF (showing that it did indeed enter) then my only explanation is that the Cop by some miracle hit the same place as Stryker. Or we can use the intend of the movie makers (as said before) then we just have to accept that a bullet to the face from Deadshot didn't have any impact on Wolverine what so ever except making him turn his head. And since that movie is of newer date...

Originally posted by the ninjak
-Huh? That's thug stuff.

-Rambo ain't leaving the team to hunt Logan stealthily. That would fail anyways cause Logan can smell him out. So Rambos stealth skills don't factor in when his on a hunting team. And the Terminators vision is questionable.

-You see this is where it enters What If territory and where this gets really inane. Does Logan go for the guts or the gun. And afterwards does the Terminator punch him. Or grab him by the throat or hand? sigh.

-My original point was both guys had been put down with guns nothing else. You argued that I said it finished him. I wrote back that I originally wrote the Terminator was down for 5 secs. Now you're arguing that Logan doesn't have a gun. sigh.

-I go of what the Terminators have been stated as being made out of in all films and yes the series. Titanium and Coltan. If the engineering genius of Skynet allowed the models to do strength feats beyond what their frames should handle as was evident in the third film great! But my argument was never strength and just the durability of the Terminators frame. Plasma canon was crap. 😄

-I'm not using comic Logan. I just made a point that just because a being is really strong doesn't mean they are really durable. A mortar shrapnel created a flesh wound on the Hulk you would a mutant who carved a circle through a metal wall like paper would cut him too. I shouldn't have even wrote such an obviously throw in the wind comment. Just because you can hold up a large door doesn't mean Logan's claws wont compromise the frame of a Terminator.

So you created a spite thread. Well done. Have fun with it.

-Thug stuff? Wtf? That's just the Terminator's use of environment. If anything, he's shown to be far more creative than Sabretooth.
-I was actually pointing out Rambo and the T-850 will be able to track Logan. He's got nowhere to hide.
- The whole fight is a big what if. I still maintain that Logan won't even be able to get close to any of them. He's too direct.
- Your comparison doesn't make sense. Logan was out cold. Even if it was for just a bit, he was still knocked out. The Terminator was not, he was just knocked down. The Terminator was still active and got back up instantly, unlike Logan.
- No. I've seen the Terminator and T2 enough times to know they've never really explained what kind of alloy the terminators are made of. They explained a bit in that shitty TV show, but it's not canon.

What can't you understand? Even if you have the strength of a powerlifter but fragile bones you still can't lift a large weight without braking you bones. Also, there's a scene after that when the T-850 is holding the T-X with one arm, removing his fuel cell with the other, and holding the door with his shoulder. That's one shoulder to the ground, and the other to the door. If he wasn't durable enough it would have flattened him.

Spite thread? Hardly. The team has to many options to win.

Originally posted by Utrigita
So the Terminator has a habit of utilizing trees as a baseball bat? Yes it is, but unless you can come up with a more logical reason as to why we see the bullet being pressed out of Wolverines skull again because of his HF (showing that it did indeed enter) then my only explanation is that the Cop by some miracle hit the same place as Stryker. Or we can use the intend of the movie makers (as said before) then we just have to accept that a bullet to the face from Deadshot didn't have any impact on Wolverine what so ever except making him turn his head.

Why not? It spent it's entire fight scene with the T-X smashing it with random shit. The 850 is also stronger than Sabretooth, it's surrounded by trees, and it it's got enough info on Wolverine to know it's wise to keep him at a distance. Seems pretty logical to me. It's entered his flesh but not his skull. I'd say a the filmmaker's intent is a better explanation than a miracle. Besides, a M-60 is >>>> a normal handgun, and I don't even need to explain the grenade launcher. Who the hell is Deadshot?

Originally posted by Psychotron

- Your comparison doesn't make sense. Logan was out cold. Even if it was for just a bit, he was still knocked out. The Terminator was not, he was just knocked down. The Terminator was still active and got back up instantly, unlike Logan.

Terminator got shot down. His hand twitched,his eyes opened, then he got back up. Not instantly. My original argument was based upon Logan getting shot down for a period then in another movie took a bullet fine. Movie mistakes made to build tension.

Originally posted by Psychotron
- No. I've seen the Terminator and T2 enough times to know they've never really explained what kind of alloy the terminators are made of. They explained a bit in that shitty TV show, but it's not canon.
What can't you understand? Even if you have the strength of a powerlifter but fragile bones you still can't lift a large weight without braking you bones. Also, there's a scene after that when the T-850 is holding the T-X with one arm, removing his fuel cell with the other, and holding the door with his shoulder. That's one shoulder to the ground, and the other to the door. If he wasn't durable enough it would have flattened him.

Hydraulics. 😄
Logan cut through a steel wall like paper. You can't prove the same wont happen to a Terminator.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Spite thread? Hardly. The team has to many options to win.

Originally posted by the ninjak
-How am I blowing it out of proportion when I use a movie feat showing him awaiting his prey then launching? And why did you bring up the effectiveness of the mutant camp? I was just explaining the situation. You argued that I made it sound like he took down a whole camp so I elaborated.

-Yep. That and the school infiltration scene in X2 when he took out the first wave of guards.

-Well he's an Xmen in the films they're not meant to kill. But he does it anyway. And yes his healing factor allows him to to get kills in. If Logan is hiding in an under brush and the three walk by, they are in big trouble.

-Rambo ain't leaving the team to go stealth mode. And if he did. Logan's nose will smell him out. And prove the Terminator is better. Whenever you see through the Terminators eyes in the films he doesn't see through walls just with extreme detail and information processing scanning. The original Terminator made it out that he could see through the police precinct but in the gun battle people were surprising him. He just made calculated adjustments while a cop ran behind a wall and followed the his movement to kill him through the wall. In a jungle that can be exploited.

-That's debatable still. Rambo ain't leaving the team. And The Terminators vision is also debatable.

-As for the camp this is what you said about it, "He infiltrated a mutant forest base swarming with mutants" You used words like swarming and mutants and base making it imply that is was hard. When in reality it wasn't.

-So all you have is a decent feat a ton of other action heroes routinely do in the jungle, and not even a feat that would rank in Rambo's top ten feats of stealth, hunting, and killing. The point being just because Wolverine is in the jungle doesn't mean he is going to be any better situation then Rambo, Mclane, or the Terminator. It's not like the movies showed Logan being at home in the woods.

-As for the Terminator's vision. In T2 when he was firing at the cops with the mini gun he literally was scanning for elements of human life and was able to detect that he didn't kill a single one of them. His vision is very good, and he'll be able to scan for Wolverine's life signs. Heck look at Terminator Salvation, the terminator was able to scan, find, and xray vision that Marcus Wright had a human heart and to attack it.

-Rambo doesn't have to leave the team... All he he has to do is lead them around tracking wolverine and have them avoid obvious traps considering feat wise he is Wolverines better in the jungle.

The team has too much firepower, tracking ability, and numbers for Wolverine to do anything here.