What would happen in a country if the president is killed??

Started by Colossus-Big C3 pages

if it wasnt for millitary getting involved many cities would have been tooken over by gangs long ago, heck after new orleans disaster gangs took over and national gaurd had to go stop them

New Orleans isn't exactly a good representation of America as a whole. It's always been a very lawless city.

I saw a documentary on New Orleans gangs on the History Channel, it talked about how some NO gangs moved to Houston after Katrina and were shocked that Law Enforcement was actually effective there.

There are a only few examples in American history where organized crime or mobs became such a problem that military forces had to be called in.

Also on the Katrina matter, this OP doesn't specify that infrastructure has been taken out, only the Federal Government. In New Orleans running water, power, and roads were out of commission. In that kind of situation it's easy for anyone with a gun to take control.

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Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Well that's a good counter argument and I agree with the majority but I think as a general rule that any loss of higher authority, especially with an entire goverment gone gangs would at least be a major worry until a new government could be formed.

the entire government isn't gone

state and local officials are still around, as are all of the federal agencies involved in gang policing. The only people gone are those who would be in direct line for president.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
You are right of course in suggesting that the police and other law enforcement agencies can act independently and control situations but I don't think this is entirely the case. They may not work as effectively with each other if the backbone of the goverment is removed, all the chain of command would be ruined, particulars like resources and the availibility and management of funds could also take a hit, public anxiety/loss of direction may come in to it. Why is it that when rebels form in a country they go straight for the government if the governments are not needed?

sure, but a some additional difficulties at coordination at the highest levels wouldn't be close to enough of a vacuum for gangs to take over

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
Society has always appeared to be in check then one thing, just one thing like a natural disaster, or a contentious issue, or just anything that rips at the fabric of a country can get a situation out of control, and I think the loss of an entire government could qualify. Hurricane Katrina for example, looting, lawlessness, where was the control in that situation until the government were shamed into doing something about it? Everything was sluggish before it was a national issue - an issue in which the government eventually dealt with because local organisation wasn't there.

the situations aren't the same at all. For one, the issue in Katrina wasn't that there was no command structure, but that the physical infrastructure was entirely destroyed.

As OV said, no power, no water, nothing.

And still, it would be entirely inappropriate to describe post-Katrina as gangs taking over. There may have been a less organized police presence, but the gangs had no claims to the territory, no people were controlled by their influence. It was a loss in the ability of American law enforcement to enforce the law, not a gain in gang control of any territory.

Originally posted by Lord Shadow Z
I agree the mentality of gangs is to generate money but its not always about money and is more likely about territory, but to get the territory they wouldn't think twice about taking it by force in a country shocked to the core and in a state of indecision. Now that may be my 'movie mentality' like Omega Vision has suggested by bringing up my slight humouous reference to The Warriors but I don't think it's entirely impossible.

Yes, if there were no police or something like that... a loss of the chain of command for president wouldn't create that much of a vacuum at local levels...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are a only few examples in American history where organized crime [...] became such a problem that military forces had to be called in.

I tried to find any examples, but all I could find were instances of the use of federal troops to put down riots or rebellions, or like after emergencies.

Knocking out the leaders Federal government would have a huge day to day impact on most people for a very long time. Its not as though the army is constantly keeping enemies from pouring across our borders or something. The real aftermath of an attack like this would come from the emotional impact of knowing such a powerful enemy existed.