Originally posted by Lord Lucien
So you call yourself law and decide what's legal or not? How very hypocritical.A relevant essay on your discussion of Democracy vs. Republic.
Ya, none of us would want to live in a true democracy. Good article!
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
So you call yourself law and decide what's legal or not? How very hypocritical.A relevant essay on your discussion of Democracy vs. Republic.
Ya, none of us would want to live in a true democracy. Good article!
Originally posted by Mairuzu
War has been started by the USA illegaly since after WWII
You realize International Law isn't a law in the same sense a government enacts laws over it's citizens, right? The UN isn't a central authority that controls the world, and there's no "international court" to enforce the treaties IL is based on...
In the end, war is war. Legal/illegal doesn't really apply when we're talking about two (or more) nations in a state of conflict.
There's nothing more inherently moral about declared war compared to undeclared war.
And putting war to a vote wouldn't be a better system than the one we have now for the reason that I'm willing to believe that given just a little more incentive a majority of the country (assuming this isn't already the case) would vote for a war with Iran.
The idea of representative democracy is that by having the people elect (hopefully) exceptional people to positions of power means they'll make better choices than the people as a whole would. Ideally a President and the members of Congress would have a better perspective and more informed understanding of the realities of war and why you can't jump into it whilly nilly. Of course this isn't the case, but what makes you think the common people can do any better?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There's nothing more inherently moral about declared war compared to undeclared war.And putting war to a vote wouldn't be a better system than the one we have now for the reason that I'm willing to believe that given just a little more incentive a majority of the country (assuming this isn't already the case) would vote for a war with Iran.
The idea of representative democracy is that by having the people elect (hopefully) exceptional people to positions of power means they'll make better choices than the people as a whole would. Ideally a President and the members of Congress would have a better perspective and more informed understanding of the realities of war and why you can't jump into it whilly nilly. Of course this isn't the case, but what makes you think the common people can do any better?
Personally, I think a representative democracy is hopelessly flawed on the basis that the representative will be more concerned with gaining/keeping power than doing what's morally right..
But I'll take that over a true mobocracy. Mob rules can get downright ugly.
Originally posted by cdtm
Personally, I think a representative democracy is hopelessly flawed on the basis that the representative will be more concerned with gaining/keeping power than doing what's morally right..But I'll take that over a true mobocracy. Mob rules can get downright ugly.
Tbh I've always liked the idea of an enlightened monarchy. Preferably of a non-hereditary variety and without any divine mandate bullmess. So basically a President who can't be blocked by assholes giving long speeches when there's a crisis at hand.
Oh what's that Omega? You're saying you'd like to see Obama act more like a King? Maybe, sure, if nothing else it would be more entertaining.
Originally posted by Mairuzu
Doesn't obama already act like a king?Assassinating us citizens abroad. Needed a court order to eavesdrop on him but didn't need a court order to kill him.
That is another war crime that is troubling. I mean no one liked the mastered, and he was a killer, but we are innocent until proven guilty.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
how do you start war? is there an official way? are there illegal ways?can you just send troops to another country to kill random people to start war? or bomb a random city?
can a police offiicer kill invading troops from other countries?
Back in the good old days, all you had to do to start a war was slap the neighboring kingdoms Queen on her titties, and war erupted. These days you have to be more inventive, like stopping the exportation of crude oil to foreign countries, and then rig up some sh1t like hiring a couple of jack@$$es to fly a plane into a building, which can then make people believe that the only reason that you're going on the defensive is to avenge the dead. It's a good thing that old peanut head had advisers, or legitimate tax payers may have had to pick up the slack of Mr. Bush's plans on shooting rockets into tents.
Nah it wasn't an inside job... was it?
Oh yeah I forgot. In the Hood all you have to do is walk up the wrong street wearing blue, or red, and war erupts.