Superboy Prime VS Sundipped Superman, Thor w/Odin Force, Worldbreaker Hulk

Started by Sr J-Bieb3 pages

Originally posted by carver9
It's not trolling when its my opinion. Why call something a Universe if it doesn't have the mass of a Universe? It was a compressed Universe...simple logic. Planets, Universes, Galaxies, Moons, Solar Systems...all of them are called what they are called for a reason and all of them have to be a certain length or have a certain amount of mass to be called what it is called.
It was a dimension (although not much different than universe I admit, if at all), and it was Nightcrawler's dimension. Nightcrawler is a low herald level being, but we're expected to believe he's got a full universe because it was called a universe instead of the other times it was called a dimension? We're supposed to believe for no reason at all that his dimension goes beyond the one structure, and a seemingly "far" object?

Nevermind the fact that you're ignoring proof just because of one word.

Can you imagine all the galaxies Hulk destroyed there Carver? It must have been millions because it Hulk destroyed a whole universe. Hell, there's no proof it wasn't the size of 616. Actually, there's no proof it wasn't bigger! Holy shit Hulk destroyed something at least twice the size of the 616 universe!!!
Hulk is the most powerful being in 616 when he was only Savage level!

All you do is overrate and lowball. You can't look at a feat for what it is, you gotta make something out of nothing or turn it into shit.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It was a dimension (although not much different than universe I admit, if at all), and it was Nightcrawler's dimension. Nightcrawler is a low herald level being, but we're expected to believe he's got a full universe because it was called a universe instead of the other times it was called a dimension? We're supposed to believe for no reason at all that his dimension goes beyond the one structure, and a seemingly "far" object?

Nevermind the fact that you're ignoring proof just because of one word.

Can you imagine all the galaxies Hulk destroyed there Carver? It must have been millions because it Hulk destroyed a whole universe. Hell, there's no proof it wasn't the size of 616. Actually, there's no proof it wasn't bigger! Holy shit Hulk destroyed something at least twice the size of the 616 universe!!!
Hulk is the most powerful being in 616 when he was only Savage level!

All you do is overrate and lowball. You can't look at a feat for what it is, you gotta make something out of nothing or turn it into shit.

The writer should have called it a town instead of a Universe since it was so tiny. He should have called it a tiny pocket dimension but instead, he used the word Universe...something of great size... A place that had stars and no telling what else if someone actually scoped the entire dimension/universe. The only thing I know is a Universe consist of planets, moons, stars, Solar Systems, Galaxies and life. If you know anything different from what I have said about Universes...please let me know.

@Carver the writer can do whatever he wants. The writers define what constitutes a universe you don't. Your opinion never makes any sense and you never back it up. You post scans which usually back up the other guy. In closing never change, carvey.

Originally posted by carver9
The writer should have called it a town instead of a Universe since it was so tiny. He should have called it a tiny pocket dimension but instead, he used the word Universe...something of great size... A place that had stars and no telling what else if someone actually scoped the entire dimension/universe. The only thing I know is a Universe consist of planets, moons, stars, Solar Systems, Galaxies and life. If you know anything different from what I have said about Universes...please let me know.
You sure showed me you weren't trolling

@Carver

None of those are really dependent on size/mass though. Rather they are what they are because of orbital patterns. For example, Pluto isnt a planet because it shares it's orbit with other bodies, not because it's to small.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@Carver the writer can do whatever he wants. The writers define what constitutes a universe you don't. Your opinion never makes any sense and you never back it up. You post scans which usually back up the other guy. In closing never change, carvey.

I was trying to avoid you Quanchy but I kind of knew this would come. The writer never stated that his Universe was smaller than any other Universe.

Originally posted by ares834
@Carver

None of those are really dependent on size/mass though. Rather they are what they are because of orbital patterns. For example, Pluto isnt a planet because it shares it's orbit with other bodies, not because it's to small.

But when you think of a Planet, you think of something a certain size. Planet has to be a certain size in order for it to be a planet.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Can you imagine all the galaxies Hulk destroyed there Carver? It must have been millions because it Hulk destroyed a whole universe. Hell, there's no proof it wasn't the size of 616. Actually, there's no proof it wasn't bigger! Holy shit Hulk destroyed something at least twice the size of the 616 universe!!!
Hulk is the most powerful being in 616 when he was only Savage level!
I like how Carver just looks at this example and then agrees with the logic behind it

Originally posted by carver9
I was trying to avoid you Quanchy but I kind of knew this would come. The writer never stated that his Universe was smaller than any other Universe.
You said the writer should have called it a town which is incorrect. The writer can choose to define a universe however he wants you the reader and your ignorant opinion are irrelevant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said the writer should have called it a town which is incorrect. The writer can choose to define a universe however he wants you the reader and your ignorant opinion are irrelevant.

My opinion isn't irrelevant...what I am speaking is fact.

Originally posted by carver9
My opinion isn't irrelevant...what I am speaking is fact.
huh?

Originally posted by carver9
My opinion isn't irrelevant...what I am speaking is fact.
You don't know what fact means. If a writer says a universe is in a guy's nostril then it is. You don't say he's wrong it's his story and he can say whatever he wants. Carver, you honestly lack the intelligence to understand what most people say. I know this sounds harsh but I honestly believe it's true.

Originally posted by carver9
But when you think of a Planet, you think of something a certain size. Planet has to be a certain size in order for it to be a planet.

Yes, planets have to be massive enough to become a spherical shape. However, this does not hold with a universe. Theoretically, a universe could hold an infinite amount of mass or no mass. So to say its huge is faulty logic as it could be quite small, just because we usually think of universes as large doesn't mean it is.

Originally posted by carver9
It pretty much does. That's like calling a boulder a rock or a moon a planet. Come on Pr.

It's not nearly the same thing. Please, read up on your science.

I'm done here. Go ahead and lowball Hulk ft.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm done here. Go ahead and lowball Hulk ft.
Anyone who doesn't use no proof or logic at all to say it's a full blown universe is just out to lowball Hulk

Carver's sillyness aside, I don't see how Prime walks away from this at all.

Superman's non-sun dipped high end feats rival those of Superboy Prime's high end ones. And as unpopular as it seems, I really don't see Prime being >>> mainstream Superman, let alone him sundipped ala OWAW. Thor w/Odin Force could mean a few things here but even JMS Thor would tip this further into the team's favor. And then you have WBH who speaks for himself, whether you a disciple of the Gamma Father or not.

Prime winds up being the one killed to death here.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm done here. Go ahead and lowball Hulk ft.

Nobody's lowballing Hulk. We're talking about science.