Originally posted by Mistress-Death
CK Herc was multiversal in power and Phoenix can't be destroyed
Cap was fighting Spectre and destroying countless dimensions in the process. I'd rank a high end Spectre ahead of Phoenix.
Orion W/Ale could take a hold of pretty much anything. Example a Prometheun Giant. It would be interesting if he could do the same to Herc. ALE is pretty powerful.
Honestly I think this comes down to what the ALE can do, if anything, to the likes of Phoenix and Herc.
BTW, what Phoenix are we talking about here? The actual entity?
Superman is way out of his league. Cap is too, IMO (DoV Spectre was good, but not that good). RKT is probably fairly close to Cap, and therefore useless. Don't know that much about Insane Genis tbh, but I think he's way out of his league.
This basically is ALE/Ion vs. Herc/Pheonix, and I'm not sure who wins.
Therfore Kyle wins by default.
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