Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
You don't? Beast is one of the biggest non factors in almost any fight he in. He would greatly benefit from increase in stats or additional powers. Make him smarter is the last thing I would do. Thats the one thing he ever been consistently good at is using his intellect. It his physicality and fighting ability that are never seeming to be very impressive.
I disagree. I think Beast does fine in most of the fights he's in, tbh.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I disagree. I think Beast does fine in most of the fights he's in, tbh.
What does he do in these fights worth note? When was the last time he did anything in a fight worth note? When he attacked danger that one time? Which was years ago. Then before that it was years before he did anything of note.
I like examples if you dont mind. Because I really dont see how modern Beast has done much of anything impressive in terms of fighting especially in last few years.
Originally posted by carver9
Beast already received a couple of amps.
Not really, and deff not to the level your about to suggest
Originally posted by carver9
The guy outran a vehicle going about a hundred along
Lets see some evidence.
If you provide any which i doubt, it will be from well over a decade ago.
Originally posted by carver9
with high fts of strength.
There not that high at all. Those very few high showings are not consistent and they have not been seen in well over a decade. Oh and the last time he clocked his strength in it was 1,200 pounds of force. Which is not impressive at all.
Originally posted by carver9
[B] I think you are underestimating the character a bit. I would give beast an increase in strength and that's about it
No, i think I am being realistic. I think I base the character at his consistent levels and don't simply give him the benefit of the doubt because he looks like a monster. I think you don't look at his overall character showings. I think you focus on his highest showings (which are outliners) only and dont even take into account they happen well over a decade ago.
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Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
What does he do in these fights worth note? When was the last time he did anything in a fight worth note? When he attacked danger that one time? Which was years ago. Then before that it was years before he did anything of note.I like examples if you dont mind. Because I really dont see how modern Beast has done much of anything impressive in terms of fighting especially in last few years.
I was talking about Danger and Wolverine, but considering the amount of fights Beast actually gets in to (which isn't a lot), I don't see how he's somehow lacking. He's not in the role of Wolverine or Cyclops, so it's not as if they rely on him as some sort of combat master or something.
Ares (Marvel), Make him more durable and faster. Also give him some nice weapons like a sword that he can summon. Also give him unusual powers like being able to make people bloodlusted and put them under his control or something. Some kind of special power.
Rogue - Give her back mrs marvel like powers.
Human Torch - greater durability and speed
Invisible Woman - increase strength of her sheilds and what not. Like raise the island of manhattan or something put her near like classic magneto level.
Thing - greater strength and durability
Originally posted by -Pr-
I was talking about Danger and Wolverine, .
Originally posted by -Pr-
but considering the amount of fights Beast actually gets in to (which isn't a lot),
It a lot more then your suggesting. Beast has foughten countless times on panel. And of all of those fights he has like a handful of impressive or even note worthy feats. Over the years he actually gotten less impressive fighting wise not more impressive. Hell it could very easily be argued that his past selves would beat his current incarnation.
Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't see how he's somehow lacking. He's not in the role of Wolverine or Cyclops, so it's not as if they rely on him as some sort of combat master or something.
Thing needs to be amped to where he was in Marvel's Silver Age: strongest there is, 2nd only to Hulk. This is what made their battles so classic.
Spider-Man: amp him either in overall power/speed or fighting skills. It should be a no-brainer that he would defeat the likes or caliber of a Captain America or Wolverine.
Originally posted by Newjak
Ares Marvel he needs an amp.Make him stronger like whatever level you would put between Namor and Hercules. Make him super skilled as well has having the ability to alter weapons to release his godly energies from them as powerful attacks.
And flight to 😛
Basically Marvels version of Wonder Woman 😛
agreed but idk about flight