Wolverine (No Claws) vs Tombstone

Originally posted by SamZED
Not trying to take anything away from the feat but Roughouse would be the "third part". We're talking about Tombstone and know for a fact that Spider-man has a hard time hurting him with his class 10 punches. Logan would have to hit harder than Spider-man in order for his attacks to have some effect. Only other option I see is presure point attacks, and from what we've seen they're not that usefull against TS.

he has also ko'ed Caliban

Originally posted by Nietzschean
Wolverine has broken the Hulk's nose with his Adamantium skull.. nearly gave she-hulk a concussion. has ko'ed warpath with a knee iirc.. all b/c of the density of his adamantium skeleton as the may reason in numerous narration boxes.

he has also ko'ed Caliban

But I still dont believe he can punch harder than an established class 10-20 character like Spider-man who himself has some insane punching feats. Yet TS is constantly shown to tank his blows.

Originally posted by SamZED
Aware of all his feats.

But I still dont believe he can punch harder than an established class 10-20 character like Spider-man who himself has some insane punching feats. Yet TS is constantly shown to tank his blows.

I don't know man, both Cap and Wolverine have better striking feats than Spider-man, it's the benefit of skill and flawless technique. Not to undersell Spidy but there is a massive disparity in skill between him and characters like Cap / Wolverine / DD... who can say how much that skill increases their punching power? I'm the same height and weight as Rampage Jackson (actually... I'm two inches taller and 20 pounds heavier... I should have said Forrest Griffin I guess but whatever) but I bet conservatively he hits at least 10 times harder than I do... and that's just in the real world where martial arts aren't a boarder line magical deus ex machina ability. Assuming Spider-man is class 20, which would put him at 10 x the strength of Wolverine and Cap, I don't think the idea that their skill lets them throw punches that equal (and potentially exceed) Spidy's is too much of a leap.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know man, both Cap and Wolverine have better striking feats than Spider-man, it's the benefit of skill and flawless technique. Not to undersell Spidy but there is a massive disparity in skill between him and characters like Cap / Wolverine / DD... who can say how much that skill increases their punching power? I'm the same height and weight as Rampage Jackson (actually... I'm two inches taller and 20 pounds heavier... I should have said Forrest Griffin I guess but whatever) but I bet conservatively he hits at least 10 times harder than I do... and that's just in the real world where martial arts aren't a boarder line magical deus ex machina ability. Assuming Spider-man is class 20, which would put him at 10 x the strength of Wolverine and Cap, I don't think the idea that their skill lets them throw punches that equal (and potentially exceed) Spidy's is too much of a leap.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't know man, both Cap and Wolverine have better striking feats than Spider-man, it's the benefit of skill and flawless technique. Not to undersell Spidy but there is a massive disparity in skill between him and characters like Cap / Wolverine / DD... who can say how much that skill increases their punching power? I'm the same height and weight as Rampage Jackson (actually... I'm two inches taller and 20 pounds heavier... I should have said Forrest Griffin I guess but whatever) but I bet conservatively he hits at least 10 times harder than I do... and that's just in the real world where martial arts aren't a boarder line magical deus ex machina ability. Assuming Spider-man is class 20, which would put him at 10 x the strength of Wolverine and Cap, I don't think the idea that their skill lets them throw punches that equal (and potentially exceed) Spidy's is too much of a leap.

Originally posted by Mindset
No one on this planet hits anyhere close to 10x harder than you.

Well, I meant no regular human.

We are super human.

Originally posted by Mindset
No one on this planet hits anyhere close to 10x harder than you.

That's because I'm the strongest and toughest man alive, I was just being humble. 😎

Seriously though man, I have seen some pretty huge differences in numbers on those strong man boxing machines that some bars have, and none of those guys are professional fighters.

Those machines are pieces of shit.

All that the strong man boxing machines show is a negative of someone's IQ.

For starters Wolverine does not need to hit as hard or harder then Spiderman to win this. Pressure points could be effective. But even with out that, he vastly higher damage soak then Spiderman. He can stay in there with Tomb Stone for a very very long time. The hits will accumulate. And Tomb Stone would likely go down before he could overload Wolverine healing factor. Wolverine has higher damage soak then Tomb Stone and is much faster.

Yo.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Look at your hand. Look at your fingers.
Unless his fingers are also laced with White Dwarf Star metal, it isn't going to be as massive as a sledgehammer.

Personally, I would imagine that a full-sized sledgehammer swung by Daredevil is going to be more devastating than a punch from Wolverine.

And, like I said, it also depends on Tombstone's durability.

U realize that going by REAL LOGIC (as yur post suggests) Logan wouldnt be able to cut thru *half* of the things we've seen him go against, right??

tis better to just accept that they do wat they do & move on.

on that note, I think if Logan can affect guys much stronger than himself w/mere punches, then he should give Tomb pause w/his blows............but I dont think he'll be winning this fight simply slugging it out; Lonnies a bit too durable for that IMNSHO. he'll hafta use his ma-skillz, or else he loses here methinks.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

U realize that going by REAL LOGIC (as yur post suggests) Logan wouldnt be able to cut thru *half* of the things we've seen him go against, right??

tis better to just accept that they do wat they do & move on.

on that note, I think if Logan can affect guys much stronger than himself w/mere punches, then he should give Tomb pause w/his blows............but I dont think he'll be winning this fight simply slugging it out; Lonnies a bit too durable for that IMNSHO. he'll hafta use his ma-skillz, or else he loses here methinks.

Tazer