Proteus vs Thanos

Started by Horrificus8 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
It's funny because it was stated that when Thanos went through the Nexus of Realities that he was being dichotomized, which is indicative of being torn apart more on a mental level than a physical one, while having secondary physical implications, like the ones that happened to Xavier when the Shadow King crushed him on the astral plane making his legs break on the physical plane.
If you look at those scans, there is no sign of blood or violent effects at all. That is because what is happening to him is more about the changing laws of reality he has to deal with each time he moves through another dimension. He isn't being destroyed, but he has to experience each.

The realities are forcing him to exist in those different states and because he is Thanos, he was able to adapt to the experiences until he could pass through.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Just looked at the fight; she never attempted to warp him...

zopzop was wrong; I have Classic Xmen 33 and 34 right here with me to support my argument...

Wrong about what? That version of Phoenix couldn't even beat Magneto because of the psionic circuit breakers that were in place. She didn't break them till she became Dark Phoenix. Then they were reinforced by Xavier with her fighting off the Phoenix's influence.

Originally posted by Horrificus
If you look at those scans, there is no sign of blood or violent effects at all. That is because what is happening to him is more about the changing laws of reality he has to deal with each time he moves through another dimension. He isn't being destroyed, but he has to experience each.

The realities are forcing him to exist in those different states and because he is Thanos, he was able to adapt to the experiences until he could pass through.

I was just going by the word dichotomized, which is a word that is defined deeper within psychology. This is it's meaning. It runs a bit contrary to your belief of the word.

di·chot·o·my
   /daɪˈkɒtəmi/ Show Spelled[dahy-kot-uh-mee] Show IPA
noun, plural -mies.
1.
division into two parts, kinds, etc.; subdivision into halves or pairs.
2.
division into two mutually exclusive, opposed, or contradictory groups: a dichotomy between thought and action.

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This means that Thanos was being worked on a psychological level that had physical side effects. It wasn't as much a physical resistance feat as as it was a mental one. Thanos simply sat back, chilled, and road the wave.

Originally posted by Stoic
I was just going by the word dichotomized, which is a word that is defined deeper within psychology. This is it's meaning. It runs a bit contrary to your belief of the word.

di·chot·o·my
   /daɪˈkɒtəmi/ Show Spelled[dahy-kot-uh-mee] Show IPA
noun, plural -mies.
1.
division into two parts, kinds, etc.; subdivision into halves or pairs.
2.
division into two mutually exclusive, opposed, or contradictory groups: a dichotomy between thought and action.

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This means that Thanos was being worked on a psychological level that had physical side effects. It wasn't as much a physical resistance feat as as it was a mental one. Thanos simply sat back, chilled, and road the wave.

I know the word. I thought you were using it in a literal way, focusing on physical effects.

I agree with your description of his experience. You hit the nail on the head.

To be fair, even though I am picking Proteus for the win here, I would have to bring up one important detail that somebody threw at me in another Thanos thread:

Thanos is an "Eternal". By definition, doesn't this mean that he has complete control over his body at a molecular level?

And, would this help him against Proteus?

Originally posted by Horrificus
Thanos is an "Eternal". By definition, doesn't this mean that he has complete control over his body at a molecular level?

And, would this help him against Proteus?

This Eternal characteristic hasn't manifested itself in any meaningful way on-panel when it comes to Thanos.

It wouldn't help Makkari, Starfox, Forgotten One or Ikaris. Heck, it probably wouldn't even help Sersi who is an Eternal that specifically specializes in molecular control, both within and without herself.

He beat a cosmic cube. Make of it what you will. Just to note Proteus isn't so much warping reality as he was warping the perception of reality while influencing the laws of physics in limited ways. That's why nothing he did ever really lasted and why his range was so limited. He could bend perceptions, but he couldn't, for example, create something from nothing, or manipulate time, or bring back the dead, or shift space the way real reality warpers, like Franklin, Wanda, Jaspers. Magneto already proved that he can be taken in combat once he figured him out by desrupting his energy.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Unfortunately, the Maker never performed any reality manip against Thanos; all the Maker did was use energy blasts...

So his track record against it doesnt real count as pertains feats against reality manipulators...

What reality manipulator has Thanos faced that actually attempted to reality manipulate him sans times he had an artifact of power?

Originally posted by lilshogun
He beat a cosmic cube. Make of it what you will.
actually, you're making that into something it's not

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I was just being sweet to my baby brother.