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Correction if we go by that comic he is FASTER then lightspeed. However, thankfully other comics (even ones after this incident) state and shown that isn't the case though.

Prove it.

Actually the burden of proof is on you to prove he is a true FTL speedster. Nice troll job though.

But you ask me to prove he hasn't gone or did anything close to lightspeed? Sure...he hasn't ta da.

There is no burden of proof on me, the feat you want to throw out shows him to be ftl - my proof.

Until there's evidence to the contrary, he is ftl.

Originally posted by Mindset
There is no burden of proof on me, the feat you want to throw out shows him to be ftl - my proof.

Until there's evidence to the contrary, he is ftl.

Sure, in Avengers Academy hasn't even come close to lightspeed levels or even stated as such and has been beaten people much much much slower then lightspeed.

As I said....

Originally posted by -K-M-
Show me some examples then Mindset prove me wrong. .

Originally posted by -K-M-
Ok Mindset, show me his second best speed feat then. As if we go by that then QS is faster then the speed of light so that shouldn't be a problem for you right?

but considering you said this I don't think you will be able to

Originally posted by Mindset
I haven't read a comic since about half way through Messiah Complex.

nuff said.

The feat in question proved you wrong.

Has he tried to go ftl, but was unable?

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Actually they said he was a MACH speed runner, and in his official bios do NOT state he is a lightspeed runner. One comment saying he was outrunning radiowaves (which may have been an error), do NOT outweight direct feats and direct statements especially from what QS has done since that statement and before. That incident can even fall under the PIS forum rule as well.

Let's take a poll then....who actually thinks Quicksilver is FASTER then the speed of light?

EDIT: Speed outrun QS while he was holding Wiccan in Avengers Children's Crusade

It hardly matters what individual posters on a site think.

The feat shows him to have the ability to run ftl. Unless there's evidence to the contrary, he can.

It doesn't now? So what's the point of this board then?

I mentioned examples

To debate fictional characters.

Your examples don't show that he can't go ftl.

He traveled halfway around the world in 90 seconds.

Originally posted by Mindset
To debate fictional characters.

Your examples don't show that he can't go ftl.

He traveled halfway around the world in 90 seconds.

He was outrun by a person slower then FTL.

yes and? Heck as I mentioned that can even fall under the PIS rule, as it was crucial to the story he didn't get the message.

again...

Originally posted by -K-M-
Let's take a poll then....who actually thinks Quicksilver is FASTER then the speed of light?

Is this cont before or after MA?

And that speed puts him at around 7 times your earlier estimate of his top speed - mach 10. From the comic it looked like he did it casually.

He has also dodged lighting easily, which can be around c/2.

Originally posted by Mindset
Is this cont before or after MA?

And that speed puts him at around 7 times your earlier estimate of his top speed - mach 10. From the comic it looked like he did it casually.

After

I never said that was his top speed, that was when he had the Isotope E upgrade and then I mentioned he has been getting faster but not enough to be shown to be considered legit FTL.

Originally posted by -K-M-
He was, but never near lightspeed or has shown anywhere close to those levels hence I feel they meant it as soundwaves in that instance. Isotope E QS was mach 10 max, but QS has been getting faster over the years but not enough.

But why not enough?

He has casually gone mach ~700 and ~ c/2.

Originally posted by Mindset
He has also dodged lighting easily, which can be around c/2.

If your talking about the Thor incident, the lightening came through the ceiling and then went towards QS giving him lots of time to dodge. Nor do I think dodging lightening is THAT incredible as even Wolverine and Spider-Man have done it

As this time Aurora couldn't even come close to lightspeed and she did this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_18.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
But why not enough?

He has casually gone mach ~700 and ~ c/2.

Mach 700 is not FASTER then lightspeed, nor is c/2 and especially when people who don't have superspeed have dodged lightening attacks in comics before. He was outrunning radiowaves with EASE in the panel mentioned.

It came to Mjolnir, then Thor shot it at him from about 4 meters away.

So Aurora, wouldn't need to be close to lightspeed to dodge them, however, if she did have lightspeed feats that would enforce the notion that she can go lightspeed.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Mach 700 is not FASTER then lightspeed, nor is c/2 and especially when people who don't have superspeed have dodged lightening attacks in comics before. He was outrunning radiowaves with EASE in the panel mentioned.

The fact is that he is doing all this with ease.

Current QS's speed limits are ambigious, as he is doing all these things w/o breaking a sweat.

What characters have dodged lightning?

He has also traveled 8000km in a couple seconds.

Originally posted by Mindset
I never said it was faster than lightspeed. Ofc c/2, the speed of light divided by 2, is not faster than lightspeed.

The fact is that he is doing all this with ease.

Current QS's speed limits are ambigious, as he is doing all these things w/o breaking a sweat.

What characters have dodged lightning?

I know, but it goes with my comment about him not showing to be much faster then the speed of light

he did the radio wave feat with ease, so that would mean he is MUCH faster then the speed of light. However, he has done nothing even close to this level before or after this feat to warrant him as a legit FTL runner. That feat can even fall under the PIS rule.

Wolverine, Daredevil, some morlocks (Storm's attack), Aurora, Moon-Knight, Spider-Man, Speed-Demon, Puck, anyone that fights Living Lightening, etc.