Death's Head vs Cable

Started by "Id"3 pages

Classic days, as in prior to ridding himself for the T.O. virus.

He walked around with psimitar, with loads of Tk/Tp. Enough to challenge Hulk, Apocalypse, and his Harbinger.

I went ahead gave him his tech, to equalize the battlefield.

Psimitar helped him harness his TP/TK to fire Psi Bolts. that should tell u about the power lvl he was operating at. the Techno Virus was still hampering him severely.

It was just a really fancy taser.

I will side with DH2 comfortably

But the Psimitar also helped him internalize the same powers, for him to survive physical encounters he would otherwise lose.

You can belittle it all you want. But the measure of power did go up, with the use of Psimitar near the end of its dependence. Much more compared to what we saw in the 80/90's.

Unless you think he can survive city block smashing attacks under his own power? Its more than a fancy tazer.

Id might be onto something with the techno-virus. Minion had something similar that his healing was able to keep in check but not eradicate until his had the cure for it. Now, his healing is ridiculously uber, so anything Cable infects him with might not be the same strength. But it's worth thinking about.

In a raw power battle, Cable probably has more feats. Minion has some wins here though, most involving brawls where he either gives Cable feedback from all his personalities if Cable tries a psychic attack. Or cranial syphon attack to assimilate Cable. Cheap but effective. And Minion has Cl 100 strength and is made of the toughest material I've seen outside of adamantium.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[B]I would be an interesting fight if they used "minions' abilities like they were explained but never really used in the comic, like his ability to be able to pull experiance from any of the hundreds of personalities in his matrix. [/B]

It was directly stated that his fighting prowess was the result of all the fighters he assimilated. Really, the only one he didn't use was Reed's database. Which is a shame. One of his personalities also escapes at one point...it's the whole thing behind an entire story arc. So the writers didn't forget about it. Just underutilized it.

Now I have the bug to break out the old DH2 books again.

I usta have all the DH2 books. It started out pretty durn good but fell apart pretty fast.
It was a real shame it and the entire MUK books tanked so fast.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[B]I usta have all the DH2 books. It started out pretty durn good but fell apart pretty fast.
It was a real shame it and the entire MUK books tanked so fast.
[/B]
Ha! Yup, you are right.

Yeah, I broke them out, was all excited, started reading.

Then I got to a certain point and I remembered that the story falls off a cliff.

Too bad. It does start out great. I still think Minion was a great character though. Very powerful.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Ha! Yup, you are right.

Yeah, I broke them out, was all excited, started reading.

Then I got to a certain point and I remembered that the story falls off a cliff.

Too bad. It does start out great. I still think Minion was a great character though. Very powerful.

Minon had potential.

It's just, Simon Furman's Deaths Head had to get punked out to create the character. He goes from bounty hunting the ridiculously overpowered UK Galvatron, outsmarting Unicron, and making Scourge, Cylonus, and Rodimus Prime his bitchs, and even give Dr. Who trouble, to being just a plot device for someone elses pet character...

Although I guess it was kind of awesome that DHI's personality was so powerful, it basically took over Minon and continued to influence the dominant personality.. I was kind of hoping maybe the DHI personality would get copied/transferred to a rebuild of his original body, while Minion as Deaths Head II could continue on as another entity, but they never there...

Death's Head I is actually STILL around and appeared recently in the S.W.O.R.D. mini (was an on-going)

Originally posted by -K-M-
Death's Head I is actually STILL around and appeared recently in the S.W.O.R.D. mini (was an on-going)

Read it, and it was awesome. 😄

But was it DH's I? The original was shrunken by Dr. Who, and than absorbed by Minion. Given there was time travel involved courtesy of Dr. Who, this might be the "616" Deaths Head and S.W.O.R.D. DH might be alt reality/timeline versions distinct from each other, the same way "What If" versions of characters are similar but different from 616 mainstream.

Basically, a "rebooted" Deaths Head I, without he history behind the original.. Kind of hard to say, unless we see him in the future and he starts talking about his time fighting with giant transforming robots, like Furmans Deaths Head I did when he came over the the mainstream MU.

Another theory is that this is a much younger Deaths Head before he entered the Transformers universe. Supported by the fact "Freelance peacekeeping agent", which he referred to himself in the UK Transformers timeline all the time, was a new concept for him.

They never explained it, but the writer said: ""if you can't bring back a time-traveling dimension-skipper, who can you bring back?"".

Some believe it was him before he met the Transformers: http://itcamefromdarkmoor.blogspot.com/2009/12/deaths-head-is-back-yes-and-possibly.html

Death's Head II also appeared in Avengers #2 (2010)

Originally posted by cdtm
Minon had potential.

It's just, Simon Furman's Deaths Head had to get punked out to create the character. He goes from bounty hunting the ridiculously overpowered UK Galvatron, outsmarting Unicron, and making Scourge, Cylonus, and Rodimus Prime his bitchs, and even give Dr. Who trouble, to being just a plot device for someone elses pet character...

Although I guess it was kind of awesome that DHI's personality was so powerful, it basically took over Minon and continued to influence the dominant personality.. I was kind of hoping maybe the DHI personality would get copied/transferred to a rebuild of his original body, while Minion as Deaths Head II could continue on as another entity, but they never there...

I like to think that What if DH1 had lived story is really cannon.

How is it that suddenly there's a bunch of experts on Minion and the Death's Head stuff? For years it was just me. Then Mungi. And that was literally it. Leo knew a little, but only because I fed him scans for a tourney he entered. I remember borderline making things up in DHII threads, and no one was there to call my sh*t. It was fun times.

Originally posted by cdtm
Minon had potential.

It's just, Simon Furman's Deaths Head had to get punked out to create the character. He goes from bounty hunting the ridiculously overpowered UK Galvatron, outsmarting Unicron, and making Scourge, Cylonus, and Rodimus Prime his bitchs, and even give Dr. Who trouble, to being just a plot device for someone elses pet character...

Although I guess it was kind of awesome that DHI's personality was so powerful, it basically took over Minon and continued to influence the dominant personality.. I was kind of hoping maybe the DHI personality would get copied/transferred to a rebuild of his original body, while Minion as Deaths Head II could continue on as another entity, but they never there...

Minion was a good character in his own right. They both had short but cool runs.

Originally posted by -K-M-
They never explained it, but the writer said: ""if you can't bring back a time-traveling dimension-skipper, who can you bring back?"".

Some believe it was him before he met the Transformers: http://itcamefromdarkmoor.blogspot.com/2009/12/deaths-head-is-back-yes-and-possibly.html

Death's Head II also appeared in Avengers #2 (2010)

I followed Avengers in 2010. When did this happen?

And yeah, it's not hard to bring back any of the Death's Heads.

Originally posted by Digi
How is it that suddenly there's a bunch of experts on Minion and the Death's Head stuff? For years it was just me. Then Mungi. And that was literally it. Leo knew a little, but only because I fed him scans for a tourney he entered. I remember borderline making things up in DHII threads, and no one was there to call my sh*t. It was fun times.

Minion was a good character in his own right. They both had short but cool runs.

I followed Avengers in 2010. When did this happen?

And yeah, it's not hard to bring back any of the Death's Heads.

😄
I tried to get people talking about him a while ago!
2006

You should remember, Digi. You were there.
Step into my time machine...


Death's Head II (Minion) can defeat all of these characters:

by Horrificus

Originally posted by Horrificus
😄
I tried to get people talking about him a while ago!
2006


Death's Head II (Minion) can defeat all of these characters:

by Horrificus

I said experts. You thought he could beat Superman and Thanos.

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Originally posted by Digi
I said experts. You thought he could beat Superman and Thanos.

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Ha!

I was lookin' for trouble.

I wanted to see if I could even get somebody to discuss the poor guy. Even through outrage.

No dice. 🙁 There weren't a lot of fans.

I don't think he could beat those guys. But, I DID always think the idea of the "multiple personalities" had a lot of potential for raising him above his physical level.

Who knows what he could have accessed?

Wish I was there for those older threads, even if I'm more of a Deaths Head expert than a Minion expert.

I tried making a few Minion threads too, and I think only one or two posters replied, and those who did really didn't know the character.

Originally posted by Digi
How is it that suddenly there's a bunch of experts on Minion and the Death's Head stuff? For years it was just me. Then Mungi. And that was literally it. Leo knew a little, but only because I fed him scans for a tourney he entered. I remember borderline making things up in DHII threads, and no one was there to call my sh*t. It was fun times.

I followed Avengers in 2010. When did this happen?

Yeah I'm pretty great 😱

Here
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/Avengers-002-2010.jpg

Anyone know where this is from?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/891344-cbmi13_15_013_1280_minutemen_dts_n_tyler.jpg

I knew about him '06 but didn't say much about him. My respect thread came out in '07. I was mostly saving him for a tourney, and didn't want to educate people too much beforehand.

🥷

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah I'm pretty great 😱

Here
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/Avengers-002-2010.jpg

So the cover. Oh. srug I remember that arc. He couldn't have had more than a cameo or I woulda flipped sh*t.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Anyone know where this is from?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/891344-cbmi13_15_013_1280_minutemen_dts_n_tyler.jpg

OMFG Dark Angel is there too?! Yeah, I'd be really interested to know the answer to this.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yeah I'm pretty great 😱

Here
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/Avengers-002-2010.jpg

Anyone know where this is from?
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/891344-cbmi13_15_013_1280_minutemen_dts_n_tyler.jpg

no clue.

Maybe, is that a Dark Guard book?