I'm assuming that we are using a well-written Darkseid/Apokolips here--and if that is the case, WBH is BFR'd immediately to the Source Wall, and Surfer is owned with a burst of the OB.
With that out of the way, even IF Marv can handle the OB (big "if"😉, that leaves only he and Thanos to contend with Darkseid+the cumulative forces of Apokolips (inc. Shadow Demons, the Gravity Guard, etc.)+Apokoliptian tech+the planet itself (which Darkseid can animate at will.) Personally, I don't see things going well for the duo, but that's just MO.
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Originally posted by Galan007Picks up hunter and prey and laughs. One unintelligent brick brought all of apokolips including Darkseid to their knees.
I'm assuming that we are using a well-written Darkseid/Apokolips here--and if that is the case, WBH is BFR'd immediately to the Source Wall, and Surfer is owned with a burst of the OB.With that out of the way, even IF Marv can handle the OB (big "if"😉, that leaves only he and Thanos to contend with Darkseid+the cumulative forces of Apokolips (inc. Shadow Demons, the Gravity Guard, etc.)+Apokoliptian tech+the planet itself (which Darkseid can animate at will.) Personally, I don't see things going well for the duo, but that's just MO.
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Originally posted by Galan007Darkseid, as he was seen in H/P, was certainly not well-written--as he could have simply BFR'd DD and been done with it. Additionally, Apokolips did not utilize all the tech/personnel at it's disposal. For instance, we didn't see DD combat any Shadow Demons, or the Gravity Guard (of whom were capable of tooling PC Superman), nor did Mantis and his horde enter the fray. Just saying.
I'm assuming that we are using a well-written Darkseid/Apokolips here
However, if we are opting to use a poorly written Darkseid/Apokolips in this thread, he/they lose. Not arguing that. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007Well written is another way to excuse showings simply due to bias.
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Darkseid, as he was seen in H/P, was certainly not well-written--as he could have simply BFR'd DD and been done with it. Additionally, Apokolips did not utilize all the tech/personnel at it's disposal. For instance, we didn't see DD combat any Shadow Demons, or the Gravity Guard (of whom were capable of tooling PC Superman), nor did Mantis and his horde enter the fray. Just saying.However, if we are opting to use a poorly written Darkseid/Apokolips in this thread, he/they lose. Not arguing that. 🙂
The writer made the point clear DD>>Apokolips. The writer doesn't have to unearth every foot soldier ever previously seen in a comic book to ram it home. DD was greater than everyone on the planet.
Much less on panel in my example than these combined forces which includes Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112Stop trolling.
Well written is another way to excuse showings simply due to bias.
"Well written" is merely another way of saying "not written like an idiot." If it's the former, Darkseid/Apokolips almost certainly win, due to examples I've already given.
Originally posted by quanchi112This means nothing, stop trolling. Next time you ignore what I've written and opt to try and preform a red herring instead, I'll report you. 🙂
The writer doesn't have to unearth every foot soldier ever previously seen in a comic book to ram it home. DD was greater than everyone on the planet.
Anyway, in THIS thread, the combatants WOULD be facing every force Apokolips has to offer. H/P Doomsday DIDN'T. ie. the forces DD faced during the Hunter/Prey arc, and the forces the team would face in this thread are VASTLY different.
Where Apokoliptian forces are concerned, Doomsday went up against:
A poorly written Darkseid (a well-written Darkseid could have BFR'd DD with a gesture), and some random foot-soldiers.
If Darkseid is allowed access to all of the tech/weapons at his disposal in this thread, the team would be up against:
Darkseid (well-written)
Tech such as the Ancestor Box, Father Box, atomization guns, War Machines, Master Blasters, etc.
A near-limitless supply of Parademons
A near-limitless supply of Shadow Demons
The Gravity Guard (PC Superman-level beings.)
Mantis and his crew
etc., etc.
And like I mentioned above, Darkseid can animate Apokolips itself to his every desire--manifesting giant constructs out of the planet itself. He can also create Herald-level+ beings on a whim, if need be (ie. Stayne.)
In THAT scenario, the team has no chance, imo.
Originally posted by Galan007Well written works both ways and it just an excuse to ignore something. I get it you really like the new gods and hate how Darkseid was portrayed in hp that doesn't make it any less canon though.
Stop trolling."Well written" is merely another way of saying "not written like an idiot." If it's the former, Darkseid/Apokolips almost certainly win, due to examples I've already given.
Come at me like a man and quit the the reporting threats these are fictional matchups I would hope at some point you'd outgrow these childish tactics.
This means nothing, stop trolling. Next time you ignore what I've written and opt to try and preform a red herring instead, I'll report you. 🙂[/B]
Hulk already faced an entire dimension of mindless ones on his own and was completely fine. I have no doubt in my mind this team led by Thanos wouldn't be able to steamroll through their best. Thanos went through the best the ucot had to offer while naked and with his mind feral. These are two examples of two members of the team easily soloing formidable forces without even breaking a sweat.
Anyway, in THIS thread, the combatants WOULD be facing every force Apokolips has to offer. H/P Doomsday DIDN'T. ie. the forces DD faced during the Hunter/Prey arc, and the forces the team would face in this thread are VASTLY different.[/B]
Every story isn't a battleboard and yes Darkseid could have bfr'd him but he didn't. DD was well beyond DD and their combined forces. The writer was clear on that.
Where Apokoliptian forces are concerned, Doomsday went up against:
A poorly written Darkseid (a well-written Darkseid could have BFR'd DD with a gesture), and some random foot-soldiers.[/B]
Mere fodder. The intellect on team Thanos greatly outweighs darkseid's intellect. He's ooutmatched.
If Darkseid is allowed access to all of the tech/weapons at his disposal in this thread, the team would be up against:
Darkseid (well-written)
Tech such as the Ancestor Box, Father Box, atomization guns, War Machines, Master Blasters, etc.
A near-limitless supply of Parademons
A near-limitless supply of Shadow Demons
The Gravity Guard (PC Superman-level beings.)
Mantis and his crew
etc., etc.[/B]
The team is more than powerful enough to cause the collateral damage needed to rip through apokolips. Darkseid isn't that formidable in combat and Thanos has teleportational abilities. This won't end well for Darkseid butu then again he's no stranger to having his front door smashed in and being dragged out the front door.
And like I mentioned above, Darkseid can animate Apokolips itself to his every desire--manifesting giant constructs out of the planet itself. He can also create Herald-level+ beings on a whim, if need be (ie. Stayne.)In THAT scenario, the team has no chance, imo. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112More needless trolling. Reported.
Well written works both ways and it just an excuse to ignore something. I get it you really like the new gods and hate how Darkseid was portrayed in hp that doesn't make it any less canon though.Come at me like a man and quit the the reporting threats these are fictional matchups I would hope at some point you'd outgrow these childish tactics.
Originally posted by quanchi112Most ignorant post I've read in quite a while. Not even worth an intelligent response.
Hulk already faced an entire dimension of mindless ones on his own and was completely fine. I have no doubt in my mind this team led by Thanos wouldn't be able to steamroll through their best. Thanos went through the best the ucot had to offer while naked and with his mind feral. These are two examples of two members of the team easily soloing formidable forces without even breaking a sweat.
Every story isn't a battleboard and yes Darkseid could have bfr'd him but he didn't. DD was well beyond DD and their combined forces. The writer was clear on that.
Mere fodder. The intellect on team Thanos greatly outweighs darkseid's intellect. He's ooutmatched.
The team is more than powerful enough to cause the collateral damage needed to rip through apokolips. Darkseid isn't that formidable in combat and Thanos has teleportational abilities. This won't end well for Darkseid butu then again he's no stranger to having his front door smashed in and being dragged out the front door.
A well-written Darkseid/Apokolips win 10/10, for reasons I've already mentioned. 👆
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
If Darkseid is there he bfr them without trouble, if he isn't there the Planet ist lost.
Originally posted by Galan007How? Omega beams/effect?
I'm assuming that we are using a well-written Darkseid/Apokolips here--and if that is the case, WBH is BFR'd immediately to the Source Wall, and Surfer is owned with a burst of the OB.With that out of the way, even IF Marv can handle the OB (big "if"😉, that leaves only he and Thanos to contend with Darkseid+the cumulative forces of Apokolips (inc. Shadow Demons, the Gravity Guard, etc.)+Apokoliptian tech+the planet itself (which Darkseid can animate at will.) Personally, I don't see things going well for the duo, but that's just MO.
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