Originally posted by cdtm
Did he survive someone taking his head off, or something? 🙁
He/it survived but it was dismantled, and was incapable of self repair. Like Digi said, Minion is impressive, but he's barely touching the Herald tier. Against the big boys he would do well but the end result, would leave him with the big L.
Originally posted by cdtm
Did he survive someone taking his head off, or something? 🙁
Hulk snatched his own head off and was still walking around in a rage. Then we have this scene from a weakened Hulk.
By the way, being cut by Adamantium is completely different than being cut by any other object since Wolverine claws has been described as being capable of slicing to the molecular levels...capable of slicing atoms in half. What's the most durable object DH has cut because Wolverine was struggling to pierce WWH hide.
Originally posted by Stoic
He/it survived but it was dismantled, and was incapable of self repair. Like Digi said, Minion is impressive, but he's barely touching the Herald tier. Against the big boys he would do well but the end result, would leave him with the big L.
Battletide was in two runs, right? Was this the first of the second run?
And wasn't he afflicted with a techno virus, inhibiting his systems?
Originally posted by Digi
The Hulk that Minion beat, but needed some help to beat, was not on level with WWH. He's not indestructible, he doesn't heal from everything. He'd get some shots in, put up a good fight, then lose.
The fight in question:
Personally, I think this is an impressive showing, measured against fights like Thor/Hulk, Herc/Hulk, and Thing/Hulk. I think it's safe to say Killpower had very little impact on this fight, given his blows weren't even slowing Hulk down, while DH was able to stagger him with chains of punches.
And characters that have held their own against Hulk in the past like Herc, Thing, and Juggernaut also had decent showings against the more powerful WWH. No reason to believe Deaths Head 2 wouldn't as well.
Originally posted by cdtm
The fight in question:Personally, I think this is an impressive showing, measured against fights like Thor/Hulk, Herc/Hulk, and Thing/Hulk. I think it's safe to say Killpower had very little impact on this fight, given his blows weren't even slowing Hulk down, while DH was able to stagger him with chains of punches.
And characters that have held their own against Hulk in the past like Herc, Thing, and Juggernaut also had decent showings against the more powerful WWH. No reason to believe Deaths Head 2 wouldn't as well.
That was also Merged Hulk, who was very weak in comparison to WW Hulk. Wonder Man gave Merged Hulk a hell of a fight, and look what happened to him during WW Hulk. WW Hulk at his strongest was shaking the entire Eastern Seaboard with foot falls. This isn't really going to end well for Minion, and he was incapable of KO'ing Merged Hulk in the scans that you provided. Don't get me wrong Minion is a very good character, and I really liked his run, but he would be beaten quite handily be WW Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Question. Is DH as strong as Ares, She Hulk, Thing, Herc? What's his best strength ft...doesnt have to be lifting.
He's easily above the Thing, and nearly killed him with ease in their first meeting. It's like Digi said, Minion is a class 100 but he would be below Hercules.
Originally posted by Stoic
He's easily above the Thing, and nearly killed him with ease in their first meeting. It's like Digi said, Minion is a class 100 but he would be below Hercules.
Gotcha...with that said, that's not good enough...at all. What about his claws...who is the most durable being he has cut through or substance? Is his claws anything like Logans?
Originally posted by cdtm
But it takes a lot of damage to beat him.And supposedly weaker "Hulks" have beaten down teams before. Weaker Hulks have held their own with Warrior Madness Thor.
On a good day, Hulk pretty much obliterates just about anyone in h2h, but on average, imo Deaths Head has the feats and the power to do about as well against Hulk as any character. And WWH had enough problems with enough characters that I don't think Minion would fare any worse..
But really, the bottom line for me is the fact Minion didn't try and outright decap Hulk, as he was capable of doing. Hulks piercing ability is pretty poor, yet no one ever tries taking off limbs and such. And a class 100 character who can form any kind of stabbing weapon he needs certainly could lop off limbs and eventually take the head...
It's why I put Pitt over Hulk in most cases, because of those claws backed by his strength, and durability good enough to stay in the game long enough to carve him up.
WWH. The one that went toe to toe with Sentry and went through a cavalcade of heroes relatively easily, yeah?
No one said it wouldn't be a good fight. But you're just talking another level of power. DHII is roughly Thing level in strength, he'd get tossed around and liquified with Hulk's better punches.
And in answer to the comparisons above, he's >> Thing because of his full power set, but similar in strength. He overpowered Thing once (though not easily) so we know he's around that level.
Originally posted by Stoic
That was also Merged Hulk, who was very weak in comparison to WW Hulk. Wonder Man gave Merged Hulk a hell of a fight, and look what happened to him during WW Hulk. WW Hulk at his strongest was shaking the entire Eastern Seaboard with foot falls. This isn't really going to end well for Minion, and he was incapable of KO'ing Merged Hulk in the scans that you provided. Don't get me wrong Minion is a very good character, and I really liked his run, but he would be beaten quite handily be WW Hulk.
This.
Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha...with that said, that's not good enough...at all. What about his claws...who is the most durable being he has cut through or substance? Is his claws anything like Logans?
An alternate universe Logan actually broke his claws on Minion. It was implied that it wasn't primary adamantium, and we also saw 616 Wolverine cut off Minion's arm (only to be reformed instantly).
His hand also morphs into a liquid-like substance to change form. It's not always at its hardest state. So the best we can say is that, the piercing ability of his blade is somewhere in the neighborhood of secondary adamantium.
his healing is also excellent. Like, reforming limbs in seconds. If he's blown apart or torn apart sufficiently, though, the healing doesn't happen. I think he's also been KO'd but I forget for sure. His strength is roughly Thing-level or slightly higher.
Originally posted by Digi
An alternate universe Logan actually broke his claws on Minion. It was implied that it wasn't primary adamantium, and we also saw 616 Wolverine cut off Minion's arm (only to be reformed instantly).His hand also morphs into a liquid-like substance to change form. It's not always at its hardest state. So the best we can say is that, the piercing ability of his blade is somewhere in the neighborhood of secondary adamantium.
his healing is also excellent. Like, reforming limbs in seconds. If he's blown apart or torn apart sufficiently, though, the healing doesn't happen. I think he's also been KO'd but I forget for sure. His strength is roughly Thing-level or slightly higher.
He seems pretty powerful. I remember him taking on the XMen but did he ever defeat a top tier before?
