Who are the smartest top tiers in comics?

Miracle machine owns them all.

If Hulk's included, then surely he's #1 in the tier.

Banner's basically owned everybody and everything in sight with his customised iPod. His technological hand-me-downs have helped Cho survive attacks from herald as well.

His mobile teleportation device is freaky too... Also, he's got prep wins against Doom, Reed and others!

Are we just considering science smarts?

Because several of these are smart at science, but really dumb in other ways.

Some are all-around brains, and some aren't.

For everything he can do with a mere I-Pod, just go at this page of the respect thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=441188&pagenumber=34

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
For everything he can do with a mere I-Pod, just go at this page of the respect thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=441188&pagenumber=34

wow that's awesome

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Did IM get a push or something?

He's always been one of the smartest beings in the Marvel Universe. I'd say conventionally, he's right behind Doom and Richards, maybe a hair or two above or below Pym depending on who you want to argue for.

So we're talking purely science here? Not who's all-around smartest?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Miracle machine owns them all.

Lobo should also get an honorable mention, imo. He owned Darkseid with his own Mother Box, by rewiring its circuitry on the fly. Mucking with New God tech at all (let alone so easily) is extraordinarily impressive.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank He's always been one of the smartest beings in the Marvel Universe. I'd say conventionally, he's right behind Doom and Richards, maybe a hair or two above or below Pym depending on who you want to argue for.

i know hes smart. im talking physically through his armor.

and when did superman build his own miracle machine? id say thats above majestic in smarts.

^ Final Crisis #7.

thats practically reed level right there. its weird dc doesnt play up supermans intelligence MORE.

at least morrison showeed that superman is from a race of super beings.

Supes created a device from scratch that, essentially, grants ANY wish its user can imagine. He ended up wishing for "a happy ending"(no giggity) with his Miracle Machine--and said wish was ultimately responsible for Darkseid and Mandrakk's defeat in FC.

I'm sure Reed could build a Miracle Machine if he had enough time to analyze it. However, I very much doubt that he could build one from scratch after only studying it's components for a few SECONDS, as Supes did. So imo, Superman's feat is Reed-level++.

I'm sure someone has a better list than I do But thess are my picks

Reed
Doom = Thanos = Darkseid
Brainiac (LOSH)
Hank Pym
Majestros = Forge
Superman = Bruce Banner
Tony Stark
Lex Luthor
Amadeus Cho
John Henry Irons
Beast
Static = Spiderman

Yeah some of these guys aren't top tiers in physical power, but they are when it comes to smarts.

Originally posted by Galan007
Supes created a device from scratch that, essentially, grants ANY wish its user can imagine. Superman ended up wishing for "a happy ending"(no giggity) with his Miracle Machine--and said wish was ultimately responsible for Darkseid and Mandrakk's defeat in FC.

I'm sure Reed could build a Miracle Machine if he had enough time to analyze it. However, I very much doubt that he could build one from scratch after only studying it's components for a few SECONDS, as Supes did. So imo, Superman's feat is Reed-level++.

this isnt whos the smartest characters, but the smartest herald level beings. so make another list, stoic.

everyone always talks about top tier powerful feats, but hardly anyone talks about their scientific feats. which is why i made the thread.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
What if Reed actually had enhanced senses like Superman does?

Originally posted by Galan007
...But he doesn't, which is why Superman's feat is BEYOND him. ermm13

I mean, building the machine, yes. But "seconds" to Superman are not seconds to Reed.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
But "seconds" to Superman are not seconds to Reed.

So not only did he have the intelligence/memory to analyze every nut and bolt in the entire Miracle Machine, but he remembered where the bolts were located, what they held, etc... After studying it for only a few seconds. He then recalled all of that info from memory, drew up some blueprints, and subsequently built it. Kudos to Supes on that one. Really demonstrates how fast he can think.

how long did it take for him to build it?

I don't think that a photographic memory and the speed to assemble something equates to a person being smarter than the other. Besides Both of these guys specialize in different fields. For instance the Beast may be brighter than Tony Stark when it comes to genetic malformations, but when it comes to robotics he isn't. Reed as an all rounder in terms of mastered topics, is likely smarter than Superman who is actually a reporter for the Daily Bugle. Logic would only dictate that the guy that spends nearly every waking moment working on scientific studies would have a slightly higher I.Q than someone who doesn't. Even if the one that doesn't is genetically built to be smarter than the average human. If this is the case, why isn't Mon-El, Supergirl, and the rest of those types super brains?