Originally posted by DontEatMeat
so punches that create shockwaves > punches that break dimensions and alter reality?in that case mindless hulk feat is also > WBH feat i guess? dont be double standard
Primes retcon punches happened because he was hitting a particular dimensioanl wall. A wall that he wasnt able to shatter by himself but Earth 2 Superman did. Its not a pure strength feat e.g. Prime punched lots of people outside of that pocket dimension and didnt retcon anything. As for punching through dimensions thats something that Red She Hulk has done and shes clearly less than Hulk let alone Onslaught. Onslaught was creating a second sun from his own power and was supposed to be able to increase his physical strength as he pleased.
High end Prime would be a good fight. Low end Prime would get destroyed.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
Primes retcon punches happened because he was hitting a particular dimensioanl wall. A wall that he wasnt able to shatter by himself but Earth 2 Superman did. Its not a pure strength feat e.g. Prime punched lots of people outside of that pocket dimension and didnt retcon anything. As for punching through dimensions thats something that Red She Hulk has done and shes clearly less than Hulk let alone Onslaught. Onslaught was creating a second sun from his own power and was supposed to be able to increase his physical strength as he pleased.High end Prime would be a good fight. Low end Prime would get destroyed.
Originally posted by Mshinu
How does Emoboy beat Onslaught`s energy form after the shell cracks?
Originally posted by abhilegend
When did red she hulk punched through dimensions? Scans.
During the time when Banner and Skaar were running around snathing the worlds smartest people in WWHs. Dont have scans on me atm but it was also directly attributed to being a strength feat via Hank Pym expressing skepticism that she would actually be strong enough to punch through the dimensional barrier. Its referenced on her Wikipedia page if theres any doubt that i am telling the truth.
Not really, he retconned beast boy's history without beating on the wall
Notice the common theme here? Its only by punching/breaking a wall between dimensions that the reality altering effect happens. Like Nul hitting that machine recently. Its not like Trion Juggernaut who was supposedly so strong that he just swung his arm at the empty air and tore a hole in reality. When Prime hits people/non-special-things reality doesnt change.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
During the time when Banner and Skaar were running around snathing the worlds smartest people in WWHs. Dont have scans on me atm but it was also directly attributed to being a strength feat via Hank Pym expressing skepticism that she would actually be strong enough to punch through the dimensional barrier. Its referenced on her Wikipedia page if theres any doubt that i am telling the truth.Notice the common theme here? Its only by punching/breaking a wall between dimensions that the reality altering effect happens. Like Nul hitting that machine recently. Its not like Trion Juggernaut who was supposedly so strong that he just swung his arm at the empty air and tore a hole in reality. When Prime hits people/non-special-things reality doesnt change.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't doubt it but scans would be appreciated.
Via an extensive google image search:
The feat of prime is even more insane due to it being the phantom zone, not some un-named dimension. I am not arguing about prime using retcon punches in this fight at all, I was just pointing out that he didn't changed reality just because of beating the paradise dimension barrier.
I wasnt arguing about anyone using them either. Its more that when discussed without the actual context of the feat it sounds much more impressive than it does otherwise and gives a false impression that Prime did something like what Trion juggernaut did. As it is its more than likely that if someone else was pounding on the same place that there would be similar consequences. The Phantom Zone thing is more impressive for the fact that he broke out than the side effects of that escape.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
Via an extensive google image search:I wasnt arguing about anyone using them either. Its more that when discussed without the actual context of the feat it sounds much more impressive than it does otherwise and gives a false impression that Prime did something like what Trion juggernaut did. As it is its more than likely that if someone else was pounding on the same place that there would be similar consequences. The Phantom Zone thing is more impressive for the fact that he broke out than the side effects of that escape.
Originally posted by Fifthchild
Via an extensive google image search:I wasnt arguing about anyone using them either. Its more that when discussed without the actual context of the feat it sounds much more impressive than it does otherwise and gives a false impression that Prime did something like what Trion juggernaut did. As it is its more than likely that if someone else was pounding on the same place that there would be similar consequences. The Phantom Zone thing is more impressive for the fact that he broke out than the side effects of that escape.
Damn...she Rulk just punched through realities. She Rulk retcon punches Galactus for the win.
