Adult Franklin Richards vs Thanos with a Cosmic Containment Unit...

Originally posted by zopzop
Yet fully evolved Cube Beings claim the Celestials are "many orders of magnitude of power" above them. 😕

Character power levels/portrayals fluxuate over time...

The Pheonix Force, at one point in time, was unquestionably beyond Odin, but nowadays, Marvel has flatly stated that Odin is beyond Pheonix...

The point is that that older statement from that issue of the Fantasic Four is significantly older than the events in the Infinity War; based on the more recent portrayals and feats, its pretty clear to me that Kubiks statement no longer applies to current continuity...

CCU's seem to be beyond Galactus and Celestials based on the events in the Infinity War; I certainty dont believe 5 Celestials could simutaneously do all the things those 5 CCU's were doing...

I mean think about it...the 5 CCU's were able to simutaneously: hide the Magus from the great powers of the universe, merge 2 universes, shut down the UN, KO Eternity and Infinity, AND oneshot Galactus...

Those events dont jive at all with Kubiks old statement; those events superceed them because they are more modern...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Character power levels/portrayals fluxuate over time...

The Pheonix Force, at one point in time, was unquestionably beyond Odin, but nowadays, Marvel has flatly stated that Odin is beyond Pheonix...

The point is that that older statement from that issue of the Fantasic Four is significantly older than the events in the Infinity War; based on the more recent portrayals and feats, its pretty clear to me that Kubiks statement no longer applies to current continuity...

CCU's seem to be beyond Galactus and Celestials based on the events in the Infinity War; I certainty dont believe 5 Celestials could simutaneously do all the things those 5 CCU's were doing...

I mean think about it...the 5 CCU's were able to [b]simutaneously: hide the Magus from the great powers of the universe, merge 2 universes, shut down the UN, KO Eternity and Infinity, AND oneshot Galactus...

Those events dont jive at all with Kubiks old statement; those events superceed them because they are more modern... [/B]

According to Mephisto's AND Thanos'(a guy whose wielded the IG ) claims , the CCUs rival/equal the infinity gems in power . Yet in that very arc , both the Goddess and Surfer claim that even the cosmic egg's power is nothing compared to a full IG .
Also , CCU's have had pretty inconsistent showings . In one story , Sentry was able to briefly contain an unstable CCU for a brief period of time . And that story is even more modern than the Infinity War .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
According to Mephisto's AND Thanos'(a guy whose wielded the IG ) claims , the CCUs rival/equal the infinity gems in power . Yet in that very arc , both the Goddess and Surfer claim that even the cosmic egg's power is nothing compared to a full IG .

Once he got his hands on the incomplete Infinity Gauntlet, he instantly merged the two universes while he stated it would have taken him hours more using the 5 CCUs. What's worse, he didn't even bother to get the stolen CCUs back. He wanted to punish the thief but he said that could wait. That's how much more powerful the incomplete IG was over 5 CCUs.

Originally posted by zopzop
Don't forget it was also all but proven on panel : the incomplete Infinity Gauntlet > Magus' 5 CCUs.

Once he got his hands on the incomplete Infinity Gauntlet, he instantly merged the two universes while he stated it would have taken him hours more using the 5 CCUs. What's worse, he didn't even bother to get the stolen CCUs back. He wanted to punish the thief but he said that could wait. That's how much more powerful the incomplete IG was over 5 CCUs.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
According to Mephisto's AND Thanos'(a guy whose wielded the IG ) claims , the CCUs rival/equal the infinity gems in power . Yet in that very arc , both the Goddess and Surfer claim that even the cosmic egg's power is nothing compared to a full IG .
Also , CCU's have had pretty inconsistent showings . In one story , Sentry was able to briefly contain an unstable CCU for a brief period of time . And that story is even more modern than the Infinity War .

Ah...but a CCU's ability to perform is directly proportional to the willpower of its user; I'd argue that the Magus with 5 CCU's was beyond the Goddess with 30.

In addition, who do you believe to be the more reliable sources...Thanos and Mephisto or The Goddess and Surfer? I am taking Thanos and Mephisto's word over The Goddess and Surfers word all day long. Thanos and Mephisto are unquestionably more intelligent and knowledgably than the other two...

As pertains inconsistencies, thats the nature of comics; continuity means nothing next to telling a compelling story...the Sentry was supposed to be the next "big thing" so you knew they were gonna give him some eye raising feats to demostrate how bad azz he was supposed to be.

Ane besides, I'm not arguing wether or not CCU's are beneath the IG; they obviously are...

I am arguing a CCU's power compared to the Celestials; modern writings seem to place them above the Celestials...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Ah...but a CCU's ability to perform is directly proportional to the willpower of its user; I'd argue that the Magus with 5 CCU's was beyond the Goddess with 30.

In addition, who do you believe to be the more reliable sources...Thanos and Mephisto or The Goddess and Surfer? I am taking Thanos and Mephisto's word over The Goddess and Surfers word all day long. Thanos and Mephisto are unquestionably more intelligent and knowledgably than the other two...

As pertains inconsistencies, thats the nature of comics; continuity means nothing next to telling a compelling story...the Sentry was supposed to be the next "big thing" so you knew they were gonna give him some eye raising feats to demostrate how bad azz he was supposed to be.

Well ,yes , the key word here "supposed to be" . Current adult Franklin Richards would turtle slap the shit out of any version of Sentry .
So , do we agree that Thanos loses this thread ?