Thor is close to NORMAL Superman in strength though I will give the nod to Superman.
Both not holding back, there might be a larger gap but probably still not by much imo.
But in this fight it favors Superman, this is his game this is where he shines in comics.
He has the durability, speed, and strength advantage.
And in the speed advantage there is a pretty decent gap.
Thor has fighting skills, and maybe damage soak.
Thor might...might be able to land a blow against Superman, maybe using his hammer tricks like creating power vortex's from the sheer force he spins it might be enough to land some blows against Superman, but this is Superman's fight to lose and as long as Supes plays it smart he shouldn't lose a single match.
Now you give Superman a sizeable amp and it's just horrible for Thor considering I don't know if WM would be an equivalent amp to counter the sundip especially since I think Superman's speed gets boosted to while it hasn't been shown if Thor's speed gets boosted. At least not to my knowledge.
Originally posted by Newjakquite a bit actually IMO though I still wouldn't say 10x as strong as thor fully unleashed on the average. Superman's story needed high end raw strength feats excluded because while they tend to be consistently at the "as needed retardedly strong trans+ tier strength levels" if we call it his max strength at any given time then 90% of viable villain writing goes out the window. Though to be fair considering how everyone spams Thor's magic superiority when his CIS stops him from using it claiming the "fight at max potential stip" I don't see why we're excluding Superman's advantages which appears more often than Thor's magic and call it PIS.
Thor is close to NORMAL Superman in strength though I will give the nod to Superman.Both not holding back, there might be a larger gap but probably still not by much imo.
But in this fight it favors Superman, this is his game this is where he shines in comics.
He has the durability, speed, and strength advantage.
And in the speed advantage there is a pretty decent gap.
Thor has fighting skills, and maybe damage soak.
Thor might...might be able to land a blow against Superman, maybe using his hammer tricks like creating power vortex's from the sheer force he spins it might be enough to land some blows against Superman, but this is Superman's fight to lose and as long as Supes plays it smart he shouldn't lose a single match.
Now you give Superman a sizeable amp and it's just horrible for Thor considering I don't know if WM would be an equivalent amp to counter the sundip especially since I think Superman's speed gets boosted to while it hasn't been shown if Thor's speed gets boosted. At least not to my knowledge.
Originally posted by Uriel005I'm not trying to say we exclude Superman's best I'm just saying Thor's best is still pretty freaking good to.
quite a bit actually IMO though I still wouldn't say 10x as strong as thor fully unleashed on the average. Superman's story needed high end raw strength feats excluded because while they tend to be consistently at the "as needed retardedly strong trans+ tier strength levels" if we call it his max strength at any given time then 90% of viable villain writing goes out the window. Though to be fair considering how everyone spams Thor's magic superiority when his CIS stops him from using it claiming the "fight at max potential stip" I don't see why we're excluding Superman's advantages which appears more often than Thor's magic and call it PIS.
But Superman would win a contest of strength for sure, as for this fight Superman wins cause he is better then Thor in this area. In order to make it a fight Thor needs his other more energy based abilities to even the playing field.
I love how people talk about Thor's "high end" feats like ha has a ton, Oh wait just go into his respect thread and find his high end feats, there is like 5? which translate into Superman AVERAGE.
Go and check Thor's average feats and compare them to Superman's Average, oh but not from the poorly respect thread We have of SM in here, go and check them somewhere else
Lets see 40 links for Thor strength
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t522796.html
vs 222 links for SUPERMAN
http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Strength/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ16
Geez, I love how peps is informed about Superman in here, look at Thor's feats with all due respect BENDING STEEL is a feat???, I did not even included those feats for Superman as they are measly feats for him, I think the crapiest one I have for him is lifting a car when He is 12 and I am not even counting pulling DS out of the Source wall
And I won't even get full into this debate. I have no time, but hopefully someone will get my photobucket account and finally shut up the idiocy that comes out of some posters in here.
C ya!
Originally posted by biensalsaYou wouldnt happen to be the biensalsa that made this would you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0xKX0oUROE
I love how people talk about Thor's "high end" feats like ha has a ton, Oh wait just go into his respect thread and find his high end feats, there is like 5? which translate into Superman AVERAGE.Go and check Thor's average feats and compare them to Superman's Average, oh but not from the poorly respect thread We have of SM in here, go and check them somewhere else
Lets see 40 links for Thor strength
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t522796.html
vs 222 links for SUPERMAN
http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Strength/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ16
Geez, I love how peps is informed about Superman in here, look at Thor's feats with all due respect BENDING STEEL is a feat???, I did not even included those feats for Superman as they are measly feats for him, I think the crapiest one I have for him is lifting a car when He is 12 and I am not even counting pulling DS out of the Source wall
And I won't even get full into this debate. I have no time, but hopefully someone will get my photobucket account and finally shut up the idiocy that comes out of some posters in here.
C ya!
Originally posted by Damborgson
You wouldnt happen to be the biensalsa that made this would you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0xKX0oUROE
Yes, I am, though I need to remake that video and include better feats for BOTH and more categories. So I can balance it more.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Hey my friend, Hopefully you wont be talking out of ignorance on the Superman subject anymore.
I was actually going to rape a new one with all those scans on my photobucket on our last debate, but I just decided to spread the word instead or just focusing my attention on a single ignorant poster on KMC. And guess what? it worked!!!
Bending steel ! Hey great feat
Originally posted by carver9you can't be any more wrong if you wanted to be
Thor wins. I had to reread the OP because if anyone thinks this is a stomp then they are sadly mistaken. It highly debatable and when I say highly, I mean HIGHLY debatable if a Sundip Superman is 10 times stronger than Thor.
do you know how insanely strong and fast superman would be....he would murder thor, even if thor had mjolnir
Originally posted by biensalsa
Hey my friend, Hopefully you wont be talking out of ignorance on the Superman subject anymore.I was actually going to rape a new one with all those scans on my photobucket on our last debate, but I just decided to spread the word instead or just focusing my attention on a single ignorant poster on KMC. And guess what? it worked!!!
Bending steel ! Hey great feat
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
^ lol
Originally posted by biensalsaYou're video is terrible. The best was how you just say Superman wins without even making an argument. Thor wins by the way.
Hey my friend, Hopefully you wont be talking out of ignorance on the Superman subject anymore.I was actually going to rape a new one with all those scans on my photobucket on our last debate, but I just decided to spread the word instead or just focusing my attention on a single ignorant poster on KMC. And guess what? it worked!!!
Bending steel ! Hey great feat