Originally posted by TheHulk
Team But It's HardTrion Juggy Will Be Used As A Wall While WBH Quickly Tackles And Puts Him Down And Let Red Hulk Drain Him Does Not Work Team Starts To Pound On Him While His Down...Leading To SBP Death
Is prime asleep?
Only way I could possible see hulk being fast enough to touch him
No matter how you slice it, WBH does not have the feats to match up with SBP.
He isn't as strong - Prime casually moved planets around the universe, in fact moving the center of the universe. He's punched through reality/dimensions multiple times (and I'm not talking about pansy dimensions like the Dark Dimension), retcon, etc etc.
He isn't as fast - Goes without saying, but Prime moved the center of the universe so fast the Guardians (who have been, at times, described as omniscient) didn't notice. When he was headed to Oa, no Earth hero could catch up to him.
He isn't as durable - Prime tanked a universe busting explosion without (sans GA). He's survived numerous beatdowns from the collective Earth heroes. He's survived raw antimatter (flying through the Anti-Monitor).
He isn't as versatile - Prime has a dozen abilities Hulk doesn't - from HV that cuts through Superman and GLs like a hot knife through butter to super breath, flight, etc.
The only thing Hulk has going for him is his HF, and that's been overcome before.
kicking
Rulk is a pussy now. My only knowledge of Trion Juggernaut is secondhand, so I won't actually choose a winner here.
Originally posted by Gecko4lifWhy do people automatically assume that just because someone is fast that they can't be hit? That is just flawed logic. Case in point Superman is considerably faster than most of the opponents that he faces, if his speed advantage is so damn impressive then how does he ever get hit? Muhamed Ali was much faster than most of his opponents yet he still got hit. Same thing with Thor, Silver Surfer, and Captain Marvel. SBP is faster than Superboy and Superman both, yet they can still hit him. Prime might get lucky against the Hulk and win a majority, but he is not stopping Juggernaut. After slugging it out to a stalemate for a few billion years, Mercury gets swallowed when the Sun goes red. Once that happens Prime is screwed.
Is prime asleep?Only way I could possible see hulk being fast enough to touch him
Originally posted by Cogito
No matter how you slice it, WBH does not have the feats to match up with SBP.He isn't as strong - Prime casually moved planets around the universe, in fact moving the center of the universe. He's punched through reality/dimensions multiple times (and I'm not talking about pansy dimensions like the Dark Dimension), retcon, etc etc.
He isn't as fast - Goes without saying, but Prime moved the center of the universe so fast the Guardians (who have been, at times, described as omniscient) didn't notice. When he was headed to Oa, no Earth hero could catch up to him.
He isn't as durable - Prime tanked a universe busting explosion without (sans GA). He's survived numerous beatdowns from the collective Earth heroes. He's survived raw antimatter (flying through the Anti-Monitor).
He isn't as versatile - Prime has a dozen abilities Hulk doesn't - from HV that cuts through Superman and GLs like a hot knife through butter to super breath, flight, etc.
The only thing Hulk has going for him is his HF, and that's been overcome before.
kicking
Rulk is a pussy now. My only knowledge of Trion Juggernaut is secondhand, so I won't actually choose a winner here.
Cosigned
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Why do people automatically assume that just because someone is fast that they can't be hit?
No. You cant. Your too ****ing slow.Once you hit a certain level of speed difference there is literally no logical reason one person should be able to hit the other.
Originally posted by Cogito
No matter how you slice it, WBH does not have the feats to match up with SBP.He isn't as strong - Prime casually moved planets around the universe, in fact moving the center of the universe. He's punched through reality/dimensions multiple times (and I'm not talking about pansy dimensions like the Dark Dimension), retcon, etc etc.
He isn't as fast - Goes without saying, but Prime moved the center of the universe so fast the Guardians (who have been, at times, described as omniscient) didn't notice. When he was headed to Oa, no Earth hero could catch up to him.
He isn't as durable - Prime tanked a universe busting explosion without (sans GA). He's survived numerous beatdowns from the collective Earth heroes. He's survived raw antimatter (flying through the Anti-Monitor).
He isn't as versatile - Prime has a dozen abilities Hulk doesn't - from HV that cuts through Superman and GLs like a hot knife through butter to super breath, flight, etc.
The only thing Hulk has going for him is his HF, and that's been overcome before.
kicking
Rulk is a pussy now. My only knowledge of Trion Juggernaut is secondhand, so I won't actually choose a winner here.
Slight corrections.
Moving planets is all nice and dandy but I would go as far as to say, SAVAGE Hulk could possibly do that going by his fts...WBH isn't even needed.
Retcon punch...Hulk has punched through time streams and shook dimensions with his fist.
Lets move to punching power...Hulk has Prime beat and I'm not even talking about WBH either.
Durability...don't know since WBH never showed a limit. He has been hurt by an amped sword slash but Prime has been hurt by a casual blast from a GL (along with the teen titans pounding on him).
Prime has done nothing to make me believe he is more powerful than World Breaker, nothing at all.
Originally posted by Gecko4lifyou aren't implying that prime had flash speed are you? Hulk has hit opponents considerably faster than him before and prime has been hit by opponents considerably slower than him before. This isn't the Matrix, prime won't be nonchalantly dodging punches like Neo was.
Can you hit the flash?No. You cant. Your too ****ing slow.Once you hit a certain level of speed difference there is literally no logical reason one person should be able to hit the other.
Originally posted by Cogitoall irrelevant, prime has been hit by slower opponents before and Hulk has been able to consistently hit faster opponents so speed wont be as important as actual fighting ability. As for durability, energy damage and physical damage are different. In fact prime's capacity for dealing and taking damage is consistent whereas Hulk's keeps increasing. Which leaves strength. So what? In comics physically stronger opponents are consistently beaten by weaker opponents with superior fighting abilities. Batman and Wolverine are good examples. A fight like this'll comedown to fighting ability and ability to take insane amounts of physical damage. I give Hulk the advantage in fighting ability. Prime is so used to dominating that he is a sloppy fighter. Hulk has much more experience. Add in Juggernaut andthisis borderline spite. Prime would sh*t himself when Juggernaut keeps coming after tanking Primes strongest punches.
No matter how you slice it, WBH does not have the feats to match up with SBP.He isn't as strong - Prime casually moved planets around the universe, in fact moving the center of the universe. He's punched through reality/dimensions multiple times (and I'm not talking about pansy dimensions like the Dark Dimension), retcon, etc etc.
He isn't as fast - Goes without saying, but Prime moved the center of the universe so fast the Guardians (who have been, at times, described as omniscient) didn't notice. When he was headed to Oa, no Earth hero could catch up to him.
He isn't as durable - Prime tanked a universe busting explosion without (sans GA). He's survived numerous beatdowns from the collective Earth heroes. He's survived raw antimatter (flying through the Anti-Monitor).
He isn't as versatile - Prime has a dozen abilities Hulk doesn't - from HV that cuts through Superman and GLs like a hot knife through butter to super breath, flight, et
Originally posted by Brockalizer
you aren't implying that prime had flash speed are you? Hulk has hit opponents considerably faster than him before and prime has been hit by opponents considerably slower than him before. This isn't the Matrix, prime won't be nonchalantly dodging punches like Neo was.
Implying it? I'll flat out state it. Don't you remember when he fought multiple flashes at once? Didn't you see the conditions of this fight? He's 1/3 the distance to the sun that earth is. Who has the Hulk hit who's faster than Prime? Has he hit ANYONE who was going super speed trying to dodge him? That's like saying Deathstroke hit the Flash, so deathstroke can hit the Silver Surfer no matter who fast the Surfer goes. I love how some people use logic.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Why do people automatically assume that just because someone is fast that they can't be hit? That is just flawed logic. Case in point Superman is considerably faster than most of the opponents that he faces, if his speed advantage is so damn impressive then how does he ever get hit?
Muhamed Ali was much faster than most of his opponents yet he still got hit.
Except this is more like Ali against a hypersonic rifle bullet.
Same thing with Thor, Silver Surfer, and Captain Marvel. SBP is faster than Superboy and Superman both, yet they can still hit him. Prime might get lucky against the Hulk and win a majority, but he is not stopping Juggernaut. After slugging it out to a stalemate for a few billion years, Mercury gets swallowed when the Sun goes red. Once that happens Prime is screwed. [/B]
Can Juggernaut not be BFRed, then? By Prime pushing Mercury into the Sun? I don't think people realise how big the planet is..its about 75 million square miles. They'd be searching for a lightspeed needle in a haystack....
Originally posted by Brockalizer
all irrelevant, prime has been hit by slower opponents before and Hulk has been able to consistently hit faster opponents so speed wont be as important as actual fighting ability. As for durability, energy damage and physical damage are different. In fact prime's capacity for dealing and taking damage is consistent whereas Hulk's keeps increasing. Which leaves strength. So what? In comics physically stronger opponents are consistently beaten by weaker opponents with superior fighting abilities. Batman and Wolverine are good examples. A fight like this'll comedown to fighting ability and ability to take insane amounts of physical damage. I give Hulk the advantage in fighting ability. Prime is so used to dominating that he is a sloppy fighter. Hulk has much more experience. Add in Juggernaut andthisis borderline spite. Prime would sh*t himself when Juggernaut keeps coming after tanking Primes strongest punches.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
all irrelevant, prime has been hit by slower opponents before and Hulk has been able to consistently hit faster opponents so speed wont be as important as actual fighting ability. As for durability, energy damage and physical damage are different. In fact prime's capacity for dealing and taking damage is consistent whereas Hulk's keeps increasing. Which leaves strength. So what? In comics physically stronger opponents are consistently beaten by weaker opponents with superior fighting abilities. Batman and Wolverine are good examples. A fight like this'll comedown to fighting ability and ability to take insane amounts of physical damage. I give Hulk the advantage in fighting ability. Prime is so used to dominating that he is a sloppy fighter. Hulk has much more experience. Add in Juggernaut andthisis borderline spite. Prime would sh*t himself when Juggernaut keeps coming after tanking Primes strongest punches.
I'm not going to be one of those people that says Hulk can't touch SBP because that shit happens all the time, and we all know it.
But when you stack vastly superior speed with greater strength feats, greater durability feats, and greater versatility (as I mentioned in my last post), then the winner becomes clear.
The rest of your post was speculative gibberish.