I'm rubbing my thumbs against my index and middle finger. For the casual fanboys of course.
I don't care so much what they did to Revan, but rather what they decided the entire story would be about. Every aspect of TOR is derived from either the films, or KotOR. Lifts and allusions abound in TOR like no other piece of EU. The story is generic and boring, the main characters are lifeless and Gary Stus, and from what I've heard of the dialogue... ugh. It surpasses TFU II in insipidness.
Originally posted by Zampanó
It occurs to me, though, than I dont care even a little bit (typing with my eyes closed here) about the SW universe anymore; it isn't interesting in the least, on its own merits.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I think most of us have come to this point.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I stopped giving a shit about Star Wars.a couple years ago, truth be told.
Originally posted by ares834
TOR killed Star Wars for me. KotOR was, IMO, the only really interesting thing in the EU and TOR stomped all over it.
Wow, I thought I was the only one who felt this way, now.
And Zampanó, thank you for your contribution. 🙂
Edit: And for me, In think the last straw was neutering the True Sith.
The way I had researched them, and the way Leia described them, I was imagining they were going to be this mysterious, bad-ass Sith people, whose Emperor/reigning Dark Lord, would use some of the more esoteric Dark side abilities we see in the games, rather than just generic Lightning.
I scoffed and gasped, when I read about the generically-designed Vitiate, sitting in his throne, firing bursts of sleeping Sith-lightning.
When the majesty and uberness afforded to the True Sith by earlier implying sources had been removed, I was just kind of like, "Oh well..Star Wars is ****, now." dontgetit
I have a feeling one day George Lucas will stand up and the realization of how he ****ed up his greatest creation with all the stuff as recent as 2006+ and fall back into his chair exclaiming, "What have I done?.."
Then, a man in a dark robe will hover over him ominously and reply gravelly, "Why, it seems in your stupidity, you killed it.."
"NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..."
Originally posted by ares834
TOR killed Star Wars for me. KotOR was, IMO, the only really interesting thing in the EU and TOR stomped all over it.
This is unfortunately true. TOR was amazing when the hype was there, but once I beat the SI storyline, it was kinda meh at that point. The problem with the MMO storyline focus is that it's a KotOR style story stretched out over 50-60+ hours of killing hundreds of mobs. While the combat is and was great in the game, it was too much padding. The storyline wasn't truly deep or impressive enough to really remember much of it. And there's almost no incentive to play as every class, because it requires so much going over the same levels again. It'd be like replaying KotOR I and II, but with ten times the baddies, with eight classes total. No one would joyfully do that.
Like Vene said, SW is the fast food of sci-fi these days, and Mass Effect is the five star hotel.
Originally posted by Padawan Obi-Wan
If Vene doesn;t like Star Wars then he can gtfo out of here, and so can you. Star Wars is awesome what else has over 1000 books written by over 7 authors and all of them selling over 1000 units? Closest is Harry Potter but that didn't even have ten books and the short stories are shit.
1000 books by over 7 authors selling over a 1000 units?
So does each author sell 1000 apiece, or do they collaborate?
Also, say hello to Corin Tellado. She sells more books than SW and by herself. According to your assertion of awesomeness, Tellado's Spanish romance novels are better than Harry Potter riding a Millenium Falcon into the Twilight Zone.
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This is unfortunately true. TOR was amazing when the hype was there, but once I beat the SI storyline, it was kinda meh at that point. The problem with the MMO storyline focus is that it's a KotOR style story stretched out over 50-60+ hours of killing hundreds of mobs. While the combat is and was great in the game, it was too much padding. The storyline wasn't truly deep or impressive enough to really remember much of it. And there's almost no incentive to play as every class, because it requires so much going over the same levels again. It'd be like replaying KotOR I and II, but with ten times the baddies, with eight classes total. No one would joyfully do that.Like Vene said, SW is the fast food of sci-fi these days, and Mass Effect is the five star hotel.
I claim this flawless victory in the name of the great ToR/GW2 war.
Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
I'm fairly certain that Mace Windu in no way specifies that he couldn't beat Kar Vastor in a "swordfight."
You got me! 😛 But I was speaking loosely, so forgive me.
I meant, he wouldn't be able to beat Kar blade-to-blade, so to speak.
At the time, he knew he couldn't win, because he had spent days and weeks trekking through a jungle, and was probably malnourished to an extent. Also, Depa had run him through with a Lightsaber, so that was hurting him. And he had just watched her have a nervous breakdown and try to commit suicide.
He was too tired and demoralized to stand any chance of physically taking Vastor down in any kind of duel.
Even if his physical injuries hadn't been the case, he had still lost to Vastor in unarmed Melee combat previously, and before that he had experienced Kar more or less stalemating him in blade combat.
It's been a while since I read the book, but I would guess that Mace just knew Vastor had him beat in the physical department.
Originally posted by truejedi
He said he couldn't beat the abnormally amped up Kar Vastor. And then he proceeds to beat him anyway....Everyone who wants to quote that Mace "couldn't beat Vastor on his best day" always ignores the fact that 2 sentences after saying that, Mace defeated vastor in a split second.
Right, but only with the aid of a Force illusion.
Mace was referring to him not being able to beat Vastor in a physical fight on his best day - which is why he opted for the mental option, instead.