Originally posted by the ninjak
Heh. Ironman would've defeated WWH if it wasn't for his Achilles Needle being a dud during their initial confrontation. A plot device that eventuated in Ironman holding back in his nanotech for so many years afterwards. Ironman was Earth's only real force of defense besides BlackBolt in WWH. And BB was a Skrull.WWH was a scientific failure for Stark's Nanotech. But it worked on She-Hulk like a charm pre WWH saga.
The only disadvantage now is the fact that Hulk is actually seperate from Banner. So the tech won't work anyway. But when has Hulk become WBH without Banner still inside of him????????????
The thread is titled WBH. Also, that was one of the best Ironman suits I've seen from Tony. They were literally destroying mountains and cities during their scuffle. Cant discredit Ironman...he did well against WWH. WBH wouldn't even register Ironman though...one punch anywhere could outright kill almost anyone here.
Bill absorption abilities would come into play and he would probably be the last one standing but come on, they are in an close battlefield...Beta Ray gets 2 paneled.
Originally posted by carver9
The thread is titled WBH. Also, that was one of the best Ironman suits I've seen from Tony. They were literally destroying mountains and cities during their scuffle. Cant discredit Ironman...he did well against WWH. WBH wouldn't even register Ironman though...one punch anywhere could outright kill almost anyone here.Bill absorption abilities would come into play and he would probably be the last one standing but come on, they are in an close battlefield...Beta Ray gets 2 paneled.
Yet it's it given that Ironman would have beaten WWH in their initial confrontation if his Achilles Needle wasn't a dud right?
And WBH is a WWH with extreme explosive kinetic energies. Iceman can halt such via creating Absolute Zero inside its victim and Ironman can inject nanos that can return a Hulk perfectly into human form.
Do you agree with me?
Originally posted by the ninjak
Yet it's it given that Ironman would have beaten WWH in their initial confrontation if his Achilles Needle wasn't a dud right?
And WBH is a WWH with extreme explosive kinetic energies. Iceman can halt such via creating Absolute Zero inside its victim and Ironman can inject nanos that can return a Hulk perfectly into human form.Do you agree with me?
The needle wouldn't have worked.
I strongly disagree with you. WBH is FAR stronger and durable than WWH. I don't think iceman attack would do anything to WBH though, especially if we are using current versions, someone who rarely if ever even resort to using below 0 temperatures during his attack. Hulk thunderclap would literally lay waste to majority of these people.
Ironman isn't surviving Hulks first attack which is what I am trying to tell you. The kinetic energy alone from a punch from WBH would lay waste to every single person in this fight.
Originally posted by carver9
someone who rarely if ever even resort to using below 0 temperatures during his attack. Hulk thunderclap would literally lay waste to majority of these people.
Oh, the irony. How often does the Hulk resort to a thunderclap? Nevermind, I know the answer.
I will agree though that Iceman is fairly useless against this Hulk. And I'll even agree that WBH is far greater than WWH (although WWH didn't impress me at all).
Osiris, BRB, and Ikaris will definitely be standing after Hulk's first attack. Wolverine and Deadpool will be hard to KILL, although he can KO them rather easily. I think Wolverine can do some damage to the Hulk, if he can stay conscious long enough to do it.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Oh, the irony. How often does the Hulk resort to a thunderclap? Nevermind, I know the answer.I will agree though that Iceman is fairly useless against this Hulk. And I'll even agree that WBH is far greater than WWH (although WWH didn't impress me at all).
Osiris, BRB, and Ikaris will definitely be standing after Hulk's first attack. Wolverine and Deadpool will be hard to KILL, although he can KO them rather easily. I think Wolverine can do some damage to the Hulk, if he can stay conscious long enough to do it.
This all depends on the yield that the Hulk actually created during the Dark Dimension. I hardly see it unusual to assume that 90-100% of the field would be erased in the Hulk's first assault. Someone has to provide proof that the team could actually survive the impact that would erase a planet or more. And that is taking into account that such a hit indirectly caused half of the damage that was seen on panel. Again does anyone really know how much damage was caused?
Originally posted by Stoic
This all depends on the yield that the Hulk actually created during the Dark Dimension. I hardly see it unusual to assume that 90-100% of the field would be erased in the Hulk's first assault. Someone has to provide proof that the team could actually survive the impact that would erase a planet or more. And that is taking into account that such a hit indirectly caused half of the damage that was seen on panel. Again does anyone really know how much damage was caused?
I agree with you that most of these guys are lasting long at all. But Osiris can be bad ass. That's really all I'm saying.
Originally posted by Newjak
Wasn't that in an environment that favored Bill or something like that?
1st time: BRB used the now-defunct 60 second curse.
2nd time: Thor didn't have his hammer, and they KO'ed each other in an environment that favored BRB, and BRB got up first.
Ever since Thor has been shown superior to Beta Ray Bill. And Thor has one-shotted BRB after BRB biasically sucker punched him.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
2nd time: Thor didn't have his hammer, and they KO'ed each other in an environment that favored BRB, and BRB got up first.Ever since Thor has been shown superior to Beta Ray Bill. And Thor has one-shotted BRB after BRB biasically sucker punched him.
Regarding point 2, wasn't it stated that the environment only helped Bill recover from the KO faster than Thor?
When did Thor one shot Bill?
Originally posted by zopzop
Regarding point 2, wasn't it stated that the environment only helped Bill recover from the KO faster than Thor?When did Thor one shot Bill?
Thor: Father, before I retire, I must know something. Did you send us to Skartheim knowing Bill would beat me? And could I have beaten him else-where?
Odin: Thor humility is a lesson even gods can learn. Such was the meaning of Mjolnir's spell wrought long ago. Though the hammer still retains some little enchantment, you will carry the memory of your combat with Bill forever. We may all profit from that, no? As for your fight with Bill... Not even the all-wise knows everything, son.
^ That's the conversation verbatim. Take it for what you will. IMO, the only reason to show that conversation is that the writer wanted to say that Beta Ray Bill only won because of the environment, but I guess it's up for your own interpretation, but why else show it? As for the one shot, let me dig that issue up. I think Thor might have been in Warrior's madness, but it's been so long since I've read it, I might be mistaken.
Originally posted by Estacadoor maybe...just maybe, darwin adapting to a death god is PIS (even for him)
If he can adapt to Hela he has a chance against Hulk.As for Darwin vs WWH off course he had to "lose" writers couldnt have Hulk lose to a new guy he was created a few years earlier and off course WWH story was a Hulk wankfest.
