Odin's Spear didn't prove anything beyond assumptions.
Frost Giants are powerful but we don't know the extent of their power compared to lets say Hulk in film. Sure Hulk would lay waste to a Frost Giant but currently we have nothing to go off.
Movie versions of comic characters have nothing on their predecessors but Thor seems slightly closer.
What makes comic Ironman much weaker than his film counterpart is-
-No Inertial Dampeners.
-No Fields.
-No nano-tech.
Which means he is solely relying on his armors defense.
Duo Death Lasers. A duo beam blade that can cut highly durable mechs apart. A one time only attack......apparently.(there is no proof that such a beam can simply eviscerate Thor.)
Comic Thor's is-
-No teleportation ability.
-Simply a Thor with no exotic speed/strength feats and only 15 mins of film feats. He took down a Destroyer Armor though in a fashion that if replicated in comics should actually work.
To compare the two is mute right now but any comic fan will say Thor stomps. But as far as movie canon dictates Thor is slightly stronger. Ironman would not have been able to replicate the Destroyer win.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I forget, DID Thor show energy absorption in the movie with Destroyer's beam or something?
I believe he did. Whilst flying down his hammer absorbed the Destroyer's disintegration beam then he fed it it straight back into it.
Causing the Destroyer to compromise certain parts of it armor and fall defeated.
Thor didn't just block the beams, as shown at time of impact you could hear and see Thor release high amounts of energy into it.
Originally posted by Placidity
Sorry, he was just blocking it. Deflects it multiple times:4:26
I remember this scene, now. Here's why: at around 3:19, I remember an unintentional boob grab when he helped her up.
Originally posted by KingD19
That still shows Thor can block, deflect, and redirect IM's lasers and repulsors.
I am not sure about the super duper cutting laser thingie but definitely the repulsers.
Originally posted by KingD19
So Iron Man will have to rely on his conventional weapons, which may not do much.
Thor has never been damaged (in the movies) while in his Thor form. We do not know his upper limit so we cannot know what will or will not damage Thor.
Originally posted by KingD19
Thor's also shown reflex speed in spades.
Has he? I did not see that. Bring the convincing arguments (gotta use math, man...MAAATH!) and I'll be convinced.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I am not sure about the super duper cutting laser thingie but definitely the repulsers.Thor has never been damaged (in the movies) while in his Thor form. We do not know his upper limit so we cannot know what will or will not damage Thor.
Has he? I did not see that. Bring the convincing arguments (gotta use math, man...MAAATH!) and I'll be convinced.
What is this...math, you speak of? And I was speaking about how he was fast enough to block the Destroyer Beams even at close range. Seemed pretty fast to me.
Originally posted by RobtardConsidering it was still supporting it's own weight plus the weight of an entire race of giant beings and their cities. Yes it was still very impressive to cause enough power to send out a shockwave like that.
^This mother****er needs to re-watch the film, yo.Thor created a shock-wave that knocked loose already crumbling and falling ice and rock, as seen when the Asgardians first arrive on Jotunheimr.
That blast would rock Tony pretty hard imo.
Originally posted by Robtard
^This mother****er needs to re-watch the film, yo.Thor created a shock-wave that knocked loose already crumbling and falling ice and rock, as seen when the Asgardians first arrive on Jotunheimr.
Kenneth Branagh likened Thor's lightning strike with the hammer to a thermonuclear explosion. It clearly devastated Jotunheim's landscape and caused underground cave-ins. So he one-ups Tony in the firepower level for sure.
Watch the trailer: Tony quips about not working well with others, to a few clips of him getting in some shots of Thor. That's quite like Thor in the comics, where he believes so much in his superior might he offers someone a chance to surrender first, and takes the first few hits before he decides 'Enough!' and goes to finish things. But by the end, after Coulson remarks how all the heroes need a 'time-out', we see the three standing together, calmed down. It's all meant to tantalize and amuse us.
We'll just see in the film what leads Thor to come to Midgard, why he's attacking Captain America etc.
Originally posted by roughrider
Kenneth Branagh likened Thor's lightning strike with the hammer to a thermonuclear explosion. It clearly devastated Jotunheim's landscape and caused underground cave-ins. So he one-ups Tony in the firepower level for sure.Watch the trailer: Tony quips about not working well with others, to a few clips of him getting in some shots of Thor. That's quite like Thor in the comics, where he believes so much in his superior might he offers someone a chance to surrender first, and takes the first few hits before he decides 'Enough!' and goes to finish things. But by the end, after Coulson remarks how all the heroes need a 'time-out', we see the three standing together, calmed down. It's all meant to tantalize and amuse us.
We'll just see in the film what leads Thor to come to Midgard, why he's attacking Captain America etc.
Director's often use hyperbole when talking about their creations, see: James Cameron. Clearly what was seen wasn't like a "thermonuclear explosion". It was a shock-wave that crumbled already crumbling rock and ice (as seen) and caused an avalanche-like affect.
Avengers isn't out, so it's irrelevant here.