Drax (dumb) vs Gladiator vs Thor vs Sentry vs WBH

Originally posted by Existere
Pretty sure there are plenty of instances of people crossing between universes without needing to hit a speed barrier first.

Le shrug.

This.

In fact, the only instances of the speed issue coming up that I can think of are related to Speedsters.

The rest of DC uses alternate means.

That said, I have no doubt that ship was moving very quickly, and that it's not at all a low feat for Superman to have been struggling.

A 70 mile long ship is way bigger than a mountain. Add an undetermined amount of momentum and it's a big feat.

Originally posted by Existere
Pretty sure there are plenty of instances of people crossing between universes without needing to hit a speed barrier first.

Le shrug.

Originally posted by Cogito
This.

In fact, the only instances of the speed issue coming up that I can think of are related to Speedsters.

The rest of DC uses alternate means.

That said, I have no doubt that ship was moving very quickly, and that it's not at all a low feat for Superman to have been struggling.

A 70 mile long ship is way bigger than a mountain. Add an undetermined amount of momentum and it's a big feat.

I agree, its a major ft. Gladiator has done basically the same thing with a larger ship.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/117/shiplr6.jpg/

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, its a major ft. Gladiator has done basically the same thing with a larger ship.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/117/shiplr6.jpg/

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Gladiators was impressive. It was done in space though, which helps some, and I don't mean to imply at all that this was Superman's most impressive feat.

We still don't actually know how fast that ship was moving though.

gladiator>superman

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, its a major ft. Gladiator has done basically the same thing with a larger ship.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/117/shiplr6.jpg/

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
gladiator>superman

In your eyes colossus (classic)>superman.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, its a major ft. Gladiator has done basically the same thing with a larger ship.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/117/shiplr6.jpg/

I have seen that from the Ff comics, couple of things, this is a very good feat for glads, but this is done in space, mass is not =

For those who have read the issue in question featuring superman and the destroyer, will know that in fact the monitors are using vibration to go from one universe to another.

Taking this into account is not only the sheer size of it under gravity, but also the foward momentum and denying the ftl vibrations moving the ship between universes.

he has two more similar feats.

Correction

I meant weight, not mass

Glads, Thor, Sentry, Hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Glads, Thor, Sentry, Hulk.

Why?

Besides the obvious "is comics and anything is possible"

I cannot picture any of them pulling this up except for Drax and that is based on wishful thinking.

But I cannot picture Thor, Glads, Sentry or Hulk slowing down that mass at those speeds.

But I'm open to ideas.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Why?

Besides the obvious "is comics and anything is possible"

I cannot picture any of them pulling this up except for Drax and that is based on wishful thinking.

But I cannot picture Thor, Glads, Sentry or Hulk slowing down that mass at those speeds.

But I'm open to ideas.

Them being just as strong as Superman should be enough proof and there wasn't anything stated on panel on how fast the ship was going. Gladiator stopped an asteroid that was probably about to lay waste to a planet. Him moving asteroid that was blocking an entire star lane. All of them can stop it and some can probably toss it.

Blue Marvel could probably do it as well, this is a guy that was carry around a small city.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Why?

Besides the obvious "is comics and anything is possible"

I cannot picture any of them pulling this up except for Drax and that is based on wishful thinking.

But I cannot picture Thor, Glads, Sentry or Hulk slowing down that mass at those speeds.

But I'm open to ideas.

Gladiator, Sentry, and Hulk all have high level super strength. Thor has that in addition to Mjolnir, which he can use to create barriers, whirlwinds, and portals, all of which I'd imagine be incredibly useful for slowing down such a vessel.

Let's look at the entire ft. I need to see some stuff in detail.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01d.jpg

Per this scan, Superman had help. By the way, the ship was still crossing dimensions while Superman was holding it. Speed had nothing to do with the ship moving from universe to universe.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/finalcrisisbeyond3d01d.jpg

I love owning people.

Originally posted by carver9
Them being just as strong as Superman should be enough proof and there wasn't anything stated on panel on how fast the ship was going. Gladiator stopped an asteroid that was probably about to lay waste to a planet. Him moving asteroid that was blocking an entire star lane. All of them can stop it and some can probably toss it.

Blue Marvel could probably do it as well, this is a guy that was carry around a small city.

Lol what do you mean this by stating the ship's speed?

Is traveling between universes, You just don't walk to it, You need certain force to pierce that barrier.

And as clearly stated on panel the ship is using vibrations to tune up to universes.

Comparing any of the other feats to this is just funny. This is infinite mass and is not an abstract.

70 mile long ship traveling or vibrating so fast that attunes to universes and Superman slows it down so it stays in one Universe and slows it enough so it does not split the planet.

Oh and on top of it is infinite mass on Gravity, not like the other feat you are mentioning.

Believe me is easier to make a train move than to slow down it's momentum.

You are funny Carver

Originally posted by biensalsa
Lol what do you mean this by stating the ship's speed?

Is traveling between universes, You just don't walk to it, You need certain force to pierce that barrier.

And as clearly stated on panel the ship is using vibrations to tune up to universes.

Comparing any of the other feats to this is just funny. This is infinite mass and is not an abstract.

70 mile long ship traveling or vibrating so fast that attunes to universes and Superman slows it down so it stays in one Universe and slows it enough so it does not split the planet.

Oh and on top of it is infinite mass on Gravity, not like the other feat you are mentioning.

Believe me is easier to make a train move than to slow down it's momentum.

You are funny Carver

I'm literally shaking my head at you.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Gladiator, Sentry, and Hulk all have high level super strength. Thor has that in addition to Mjolnir, which he can use to create barriers, whirlwinds, and portals, all of which I'd imagine be incredibly useful for slowing down such a vessel.

Just because they have super strength does not mean they can slow it down.

Having Super strength on super human level does not mean all of them have the same amount of super strength.

I could believe Thor using some sort of plot device coming out from Mjolnir could do it, but not by evidence of super strength, unless We use abstracts.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm literally shaking my head at you.

I'm smiling

Originally posted by biensalsa
Just because they have super strength does not mean they can slow it down.

Having Super strength on super human level does not mean all of them have the same amount of super strength.

I could believe Thor using some sort of plot device coming out from Mjolnir could do it, but not by evidence of super strength, unless We use abstracts.

Superman didn't even do the ft by himself...lol.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Just because they have super strength does not mean they can slow it down.

Having Super strength on super human level does not mean all of them have the same amount of super strength.

I could believe Thor using some sort of plot device coming out from Mjolnir could do it, but not by evidence of super strength, unless We use abstracts.

Obviously. Luke Cage and Spider-Man have super strength; doesn't mean they can slow it down. But Gladiator, Sentry, Hulk, and Thor all have super strength the likes of which to perform such a task, imo, based off their own feats and how they interact with others.