Sentry(wwh) vs Juggernaut(wwh)

Started by Horrificus4 pages

Originally posted by carver9
All of your post are laughable. H1A8?
Dude, it looks like H1A8 is leaving you holding the bag on this one. 🙁

Get out while you can!

Originally posted by Horrificus
Dude, it looks like H1A8 is leaving you holding the bag on this one. 🙁

Get out while you can!

Lol 😆

Juggernaut would serious stomp Sentry and ANYONE ELSE for that matter in a purely physical confrontation with no bfr. Its simple logic. Juggs cannot be harmed physically at all. Period. While someone could be stronger than him they couldnt actually cause him any damage while he one the other hand could even if he was in fact weaker which i dont believe is the case here

Juggernaut's strength at Classic Levels always seemed to fluctuate depending on who he fought. As he's never just "not hurt" somebody he was up against. So his strength would more than likely end up matching or overwhelming Sentry as he got more power for the fight.

Sentry wins eventually imo. Juggernaut can't grab energy like Hulk can and there's no telling much damage he would have taken from Sentry's energy blasts but he isn't marching through it unaffected. He's been hurt by far less.

He's been hurt by far less when he was jobbing. But this is basically Classic levels Juggernaut without all the weird powers like walking on air and energy attacks. He takes this.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's been hurt by far less when he was jobbing. But this is basically Classic levels Juggernaut without all the weird powers like walking on air and energy attacks. He takes this.

So we use the one showing of him tanking the Godblast with his forcefield, something he doesn't even have anymore and essentially ignore his entire history? Makes sense.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Sentry wins eventually imo. Juggernaut can't grab energy like Hulk can and there's no telling much damage he would have taken from Sentry's energy blasts but he isn't marching through it unaffected. He's been hurt by far less.
Yeah. He might take a lot off damage.
And, then that would be it. Um, right?

😄

^ And that was after D'spayre stole all of his power and used it to kill him.

Originally posted by KingD19
He's been hurt by far less when he was jobbing. But this is basically Classic levels Juggernaut without all the weird powers like walking on air and energy attacks. He takes this.

Merge Hulk was working Juggernaut and Jugs was on the ground in pain.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg

Sentry fought a more powerful Hulk and did ok against him in a "prolong fight".

Juggernaut is getting creamed here...by the way, that scan was classic Jugs. Let's not even bring up his battle against War Hulk and if anyone want to sprout out that War Hulk>WWH then let's compare.

War Hulk...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

WWH...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0027.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg

WWH nearly halts his forward momentum to a complete stop.

Sentry stomps.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah. He might take a lot off damage.
And, then that would be it. Um, right?

😄

One of Juggernauts best showing...Hulk and Sentry has similar fts.

Sentry.

Originally posted by carver9
Merge Hulk was working Juggernaut and Jugs was on the ground in pain.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg

Sentry fought a more powerful Hulk and did ok against him in a "prolong fight".

Juggernaut is getting creamed here...by the way, that scan was classic Jugs. Let's not even bring up his battle against War Hulk and if anyone want to sprout out that War Hulk>WWH then let's compare.

War Hulk...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

WWH...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0027.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg

WWH nearly halts his forward momentum to a complete stop.

Sentry stomps.

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Originally posted by Horrificus
Yeah. He might take a lot off damage.
And, then that would be it. Um, right?

😄


Sentry's power doesn't work the same way D'Spayre's does, Juggernaut can't be killed, at least not permanently that should come as no surprise him still being alive. But the above feat really has nothing to do with whether he can be KO'ed or not. On a side note, iirc D'Spayre didn't attack Juggernaut after the above scan.

Hulk was clearly displaying more power against Sentry than he was against Juggernaut and Sentry stood up to it. Sentry is being downplayed here while two of Juggernauts best feats are being bandied around as the norm. These two feats don't excuse being one-shotted by War Hulk, two shotted by Prof Hulk, BFR'd with ease by Savage Hulk, KO'ed by Onslaught, beaten down by Thor, beat down by an amped Venom etc etc. Juggernaut is tough but he is far from invincible and is even less versatile than Hulk.

Ok i think a few things need to be cleared up here.

Number 1 is the fact that Cain Marko has been shown to be a very stupid person and i believe we can all agree on that Which is the major reason he loses. People outsmart him on a regular basis.

Now number 2 without a ringout of some kind Hulk (with the exception of War Hulk) has never cleanly beaten Juggs.

Number 3 Juggers two weaknesses are some kind of mental attack (which the helmet usually protects him from) and some kind of mystical induced attack (which could really be any kind of attack as long as it is derived from mysticism/magic which is a weakness Hulk doesnt have so you cant really compare them against the same enemy sometimes ,ie Onslaught, since he uses attackws that Juggs is weak to but not Hulk. That would be like saying Batman is stronger than Superman cuz he can Beat up Kryptonite Man no problem but Supes has trouble.

Number 4 and please correct me if im wrong but i believe War Hulk was powered up by using some mysticism which is Juggs weakness which means that he didnt have to be technically stronge than Juggs to put a hurting on him. Im not saying he wasnt stronger now (tho i dont believe he was) im just saying he had a huge advantage.

And Number 5 Sentry (and WWH for that matter) have neither advantage over Juggs and with no ringout possible and do not think he could beat Juggs in fisty cuffs since Sentry has been shown to have a limit while Juggers does not.

Also i might add that it didnt look as tho Juggs was truly trying to push WWH backwards as much as he was just trying to trade punches at 1st then was trying to either force Hulk to the ground or maybe trying to do the "test of strength" or "mercy" game with WWH maybe to prove he was stronger and was outsmarted as usual when he pushed. If there were no ringout possible i doubt WWH would be able to win since purely physical attacks could never harm The Juggernaut. Unless WWH could get so mad that he developed magic or telepathy he would never win and he would probably run out of steam eventually and revert back to Banner like he did against Sentry. Or maybe He would get so mad that his body could no longer contain it and he blows up or just croaks.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
But the above feat really has nothing to do with whether he can be KO'ed or not.
Well, it is important to note that being turned into a blood-soaked skeleton didn't even seem to KO Juggernaut. 🙂

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, it is important to note that being turned into a blood-soaked skeleton didn't even seem to KO Juggernaut. 🙂
They weren't blood soaked his skeleton was just red because he technically isn't human anymore.

Originally posted by carver9
Merge Hulk was working Juggernaut and Jugs was on the ground in pain.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg

Sentry fought a more powerful Hulk and did ok against him in a "prolong fight".

Juggernaut is getting creamed here...by the way, that scan was classic Jugs. Let's not even bring up his battle against War Hulk and if anyone want to sprout out that War Hulk>WWH then let's compare.

War Hulk...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

WWH...

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0027.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0028.jpg

WWH nearly halts his forward momentum to a complete stop.

Sentry stomps.

Couple things.... 1rst 1 takes place in banners head. 2nd.... almost stops the juggernaut... think about that for a second. Your saying that almost stopping the juggernaut means that he's the weaker of the 2.... If it was bringing him to a stop/pushing him back I'd agree but, almost stop... If anything that makes the Hulk the weaker of the two being that he was unable to stop him.

Originally posted by Horrificus
Well, it is important to note that being turned into a blood-soaked skeleton didn't even seem to KO Juggernaut. 🙂

Crimson is his colour. What it shows us is he can't be killed as long as he is connected to the gem but he has and can be KO'ed. Even in the Marvel/DC crossovers he was KO'ed by Wonder Woman and Superman on seperate occasions. Without his FF he isn't beating Sentry as he was displayed in WWH.