RAO Vs Zeus (MU)

Started by zopzop5 pages
Originally posted by -K-M-
Anyone else find it funny zopzop is arguing against hyberbole when he has a Chaos King sig and avatar?

Reading comprehension fail on your part. But carry on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Played with him for 18 months? That's weaksauce.

I'll provide the scan if you want.

No, I just re-read TLGK, she was weakened by her fight with rao. There are multiple origins in DC and they are all correct 😆 . That's why I called your mind "a marvel universe mindscape". You didn't recall his defeat by titan where herc and thing had to save him. Herc also beat him once IIRC.

When did Herc beat Zeus. I KNOW you aren't referring to the time Zeus abducted the Avengers to Olympus to judge them for Herc's near death beatdown by the Wrecking Crew and friends. Because if that's the incident you have in mind, you're wrong.

PS when did Herc team with Thing to save Zeus from the Titans? I'm drawing a blank on that one.

I guess he meant Herc teaming with the Hulk to save Zeus. I'm hoping that's what he is talking about.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sandman related stuff rarely make sense. Yeah, the same team buster thor fought for 18 months.

A number was never given and I have never understood why people like to claim that when Thor himself disputed the claim.

http://www.imagebam.com/image/8c4a7352803586

Originally posted by abhilegend
Herc also beat him once IIRC.

I know what your talking about that's not cannon Zues would do to Herc what he did the last time one-shot him and then proceed to depower him.

Originally posted by zopzop
Reading comprehension fail on your part. But carry on.

No I understand, even in the Rao vs. Odin thread you specifically made mention a few times that claims should not be held high in regard, yet on more then one occasion you accept the fact Chaos King destroyed the mutliverse, even though it was never shown and was also refered to him destroying just the universe in the same story. So where do you draw the line then? I digress...

Not a big deal

Originally posted by zopzop

I'll provide the scan if you want.

When did Herc beat Zeus. I KNOW you aren't referring to the time Zeus abducted the Avengers to Olympus to judge them for Herc's near death beatdown by the Wrecking Crew and friends. Because if that's the incident you have in mind, you're wrong.

PS when did Herc team with Thing to save Zeus from the Titans? I'm drawing a blank on that one.


I've seen it. Still a very weak showing for a skyfather.
Oh, it was a future story. My bad. Go here, I can't access my scans from my phone.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=360625&pagenumber=8#post6200897

Originally posted by zopzop

PS when did Herc team with Thing to save Zeus from the Titans? I'm drawing a blank on that one. [/B]

He is talking about Hulk vs Hercules when titans collide it was Hulk he team up with to fight the Titans pretty bad showing for Zeus was written by Pak but this before he seemingly took a shine to the Olympian and actually wrote him properly.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
He is talking about Hulk vs Hercules when titans collide it was Hulk he team up with to fight the Titans pretty bad showing for Zeus was written by Pak but this before he seemingly took a shine to the Olympian and actually wrote him properly.

Yeah, I was just about to post this. That's why I said he is getting his stuff confused. It was Hulk, not thing and I don't think it was a bad showing since Zeus was weakened because of Chaos King.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
He is talking about Hulk vs Hercules when titans collide it was Hulk he team up with to fight the Titans pretty bad showing for Zeus was written by Pak but this before he seemingly took a shine to the Olympian and actually wrote him properly.

Not that one. Its an old team up issue.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not that one. Its an old team up issue.

Ah I know what you mean I saw a scan of it Zeus was bound to a pole with Hercules and Thing arriving but I don't really knowthe context or what happened in the issue.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I've seen it. Still a very weak showing for a skyfather.
Oh, it was a future story. My bad. Go here, I can't access my scans from my phone.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=360625&pagenumber=8#post6200897

"Possible future" and hence non canon in terms of 616 Zeus.

Originally posted by zopzop
"Possible future" and hence non canon in terms of 616 Zeus.

That team up wasn't in future, was it?

Originally posted by zopzop
What "has been stated as canon"? Be more specific. The multiple contradicting creation stories? Or Rao being acknowledged as the creator of the universe?

Both. DC cosmology is wacky.

Originally posted by -K-M-
No I understand, even in the Rao vs. Odin thread you specifically made mention a few times that claims should not be held high in regard, yet on more then one occasion you accept the fact Chaos King destroyed the mutliverse, even though it was never shown and was also refered to him destroying just the universe in the same story. So where do you draw the line then? I digress...

Not a big deal

Actually it is a big deal. Asmodeus Cho stated it on panel and the word multiverse was thrown around back and forth with universe. The writing was absolute garbage. So it's not clear either way whether it was multivers or 'merely' universe but there are good arguments for both sides. IMHO Igniz's Respect Thread sealed the deal (for the multiverse argument) with the explanation of the what the Continuum Universe was and the scan of the Watcher's narration of the events.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Both. DC cosmology is wacky.

So you got confirmation that Rao is the creator god of the DC universe (not the retelling of Kryptonian theology pics)? Scans?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That team up wasn't in future, was it?

EDIT

The Thing/Hercules Team up was what you were referring to? Is that story even 'real'? Thing was telling the kids bedtime stories or something. Anyone have the full issue to confirm?

Originally posted by zopzop
Actually it is a big deal. Asmodeus Cho stated it on panel and the word multiverse was thrown around back and forth with universe. The writing was absolute garbage. So it's not clear either way whether it was multivers or 'merely' universe but there are good arguments for both sides. IMHO Igniz's Respect Thread sealed the deal (for the multiverse argument) with the explanation of the what the Continuum Universe was and the scan of the Watcher's narration of the events.

Saw it and still was not convinced it was a multiverse, and a lot of people still don't feel that way either. *shrugs*

Hercules even with his GOD powers refered to it as a universe. Also the fact the 616 universe is in fact a multiverse which was even shown during Chaos War with the Ck going into the different universes and dimensions of the Gods. So as I said, your going by statements as it certainly didn't show the multiverse being destroyed.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Saw it and still was not convinced it was a multiverse, and a lot of people still don't feel that way either. *shrugs*

Hercules even with his GOD powers refered to it as a universe. Also the fact the 616 universe is in fact a multiverse which was even shown during Chaos War with the Ck going into the different universes and dimensions of the Gods. So as I said, your going by statements as it certainly didn't show the multiverse being destroyed.

Like I said, there's good arguments for BOTH sides of the multiverse/universe camp. It has nothing to do with hyperbole, it's just sh|tty writing.

Originally posted by zopzop
it's just sh|tty writing.

That it was, shame as I had high hopes for the series.

He's one of the many creators.