I hate to say this - considering I like the PT over the new shitty books, but, Yoda's team is boned. 😬
Yoda and Mace together could handle Luke - but Jacen (I'm assuming all characters are Peak?) could handily take Obi-wan and Kyp and co. would be able to mop up the rest.
It would be a messy fight. Yoda/Mace would emerge from the battle against Luke, victorious, but bleeding and rasping for breath and drained of power.
Luke's cohorts would take them out after a hard battle. 🙁
Luke's team wins.
Too many Skywalkers in first team. Replace Saba and Kyp with Ben and Lea and we get the whole family. In Luke's team out of all only Kyp sucks. Replace Jacen and Jaina with Corran Horn/Silgal and Katarn/Korr and we get more of a fair fight.
Anyway.
Scenario one.
Plo Koon unleashes on Luke electric judgement. Luke catches it with lightsaber and slowly approaches, while Plo continues pouring it to delay time.
Yoda confronts Jacen as the only one proficient to defend against any Force attacks and too agile and small to use against him shatterpoint and kicks.
Mace is backing away from Jaina's wrathful attacks and dirty Mandalorian tactics but then fully gives in to Vaapad and Jaina begins having hard time herself.
As Kit Fisto approaches Mara, she makes piercing thrust that instantly kills him. Then she runs to help Jacen. Yoda this time has to jump twice more often and change positions in a way that Mara and Jacen constantly stumble against each other.
Obi-Wan goes full defence against Saba. She attempted to trip him over with tale but he managed to chop it off. Her attacks then became even more viscous and Kenobi went even deeper into defence at the same time constantly Force pushing her away to have brakes between attacks.
Shaak Ti after short fight masterfully disarms and defeats Kyp, then runs to help Plo Koon. As she joins him, Plo Koon disengage from fight and uses electric jadgement against Barabel. Obi-Wan uses the moment and strikes her down.
Yoda catches Mara off-guard with Force blast that slams her right into Jacen and then quickly kills them both. Then joins Shaak and Plo to help defeat Luke, while Obi-Wan helps Windu.
As Obi-Wan attacked Jaina from behind, she dodged, grabbed his lightsaber wrist, kneed him into stomach and began twisting hand, while using him as protection against Windu. Obi-Wan at last instance ducked from her decapitating slash and used his own technique to counter her arm lock and delayed her long enough for Windu to finish the job.
On seeing Yoda jumping to him Luke unleashed desperate Force blast. Shaak Ti was sent flying backward, while Plo Koon rooted himself in one place and Yoda caught in air merely somersaulted backward. Luke deflected Koon’s attack and gave powerful elbow strike right into breathing mask. Plo Koon staggered backward wobbly from concussion and unable to breath but before Luke could finish him Yoda already shortened distance and was on offensive and Shaak Ti still dizzy but already on approach as well. Yoda’s strikes were not particularly powerful and lightsaber too short to pose immediate threat, yet, their intensity was overwhelming and took Luke’s full attention. Luke managed to block Shaak Ti’s attack and even prevented Yoda’s low slash by jumping him over, however, Plo Koon did the final blow.
Scenario 2
Luke attacks Yoda and puts his best effort and mastery to finish him as quick as possible. Yet, Yoda proves to be too agile and small avoiding and redirecting Luke’s attacks almost effortlessly.
Jacen applies Force choke on Obi-Wan. Kenobi’s neck almost snaps but he manages to break free, yet, immense Force blast follows that sends him tumbling over five meters away. He barely stood up as Jacen was already on him. Kenobi blocked several strikes before receiving kick that broke two ribs but Kenobi kept fighting on the verge of losing consciousness.
Shaak Ti’s graceful and masterful techniques were met with brutal and unpredictable attacks of Jaina.
As Kit Fisto approaches Mara, she makes piercing thrust that instantly kills him. Then she runs to help Luke.
Windu employs Vaapad by enjoying the fight and accepting fury of Barabel. But Saba on seeing strength of her prey relishes fight with worthy foe in her own way.
Plo Koon keeps pressing on Kyp with his powerful and incredibly fast attacks until finally striking him down. Then he sees that Obi-Wan desperately needs helps and strikes Jacen with electric judgement. Excruciating pain consumed Jacen but he did not try to block it, he embraced it and at the last moment dodged Kenobi’s attack and struck him down. Then Jacen answered with his own Force lightning. Plo Koon would have blocked it but he could not comprehend such outcome and by the time he realized what happened, he was already consumed by forks of death.
Then Jacen used subtle Force motion that affected Shaak Ti’s movement enough to result in mistake that Jaina used to her advantage.
Saba began getting tired and Windu finally began taking advantage. She slammed him with tale. But Windu was skilled enough to ignore pain, keep his concentration and regain balance almost instantly. He parried her next attack to the legs. What he didn’t expect is her jaws suddenly clenching on his lightsaber hand with bone crashing strength. Screaming he kept punching her in the snout and nose but she kept gnashing and grinding until hand was torn away. Next instance her claws pierced his throat and she thrust her teeth into his trachea. Scream turned into gurgle and then into complete silence.
Yoda did his best defending against Luke and Mara trying to make them clash with each other. But whatever Yoda did husband and wife worked in unison like a single mind precisely and inevitably stripping him of any advantage and chance to win until he simply could fight no more.
I obviously made fun on Fisto. Just can't get out of my head that movie scene. 🤣
Kyp is indeed powerful, yet, it was his own believe that he was more powerful, than Luke. They both moved black hole and only Luke lost consciousness, yet, at that point he was out of practice and since showed much heavier uses of Force, while keeping himself awake. Regarding Kyp's lightsaber skill apart from losing to Slayer with red alpha there isn't much evidence. I had expectation of him in Apocalypse but not a single combat with him was represented.
In any case I used Fisto and Kyp as devices to make other fights more dynamic. I tried to show advantages of all other characters. Shaak Ti was described as one of the best swordsmen of her time and had upper hand in fight against Galen Marek. About Plo Koon there isn't much evidence, however, being wounded and with one hand broken he managed to fight off Ventress, which gives him considerable weight and he is one of my favorite characters, so I had to be a bit biased 😄.
In any case, instead of making another thread of boring arguments make up your own scenarios in the way you see things progressing.
It is pretty terrible that that entire series ended without another mention of Kyp doing anything worthwhile, and no mention of Jaden Korr either, a supposedly ridiculously powerful Jedi in his own right.
Same with Kyle....
I guess it was important that THOSE Jedi master just hung out in the control room...;.
How old is Kyle by now? Gotta be decently old I imagine.
Originally posted by truejedi
It is pretty terrible that that entire series ended without another mention of Kyp doing anything worthwhile, and no mention of Jaden Korr either, a supposedly ridiculously powerful Jedi in his own right.Same with Kyle....
I guess it was important that THOSE Jedi master just hung out in the control room...;.
How old is Kyle by now? Gotta be decently old I imagine.
Kyle is 66, 3 years older, than Luke, grand pa in other words. 😄
Right now I read Red Harvest, which is about life in a Sith Academy. It ended up being horror with zombies. 💃 Then I go for Riptide and Katarn books.