New Genesis Vs Asgard

Started by Stoic4 pages
Originally posted by Don Corleone
He'll give him one hell of a fight and can keep Thor occupied.

As of a few months ago, The Silver Surfer has become an addition to Asgardia (formely known as Asgard), so we can't go forgetting about good olde Norrin.

Originally posted by Don Corleone
He forgot Kurse. Unforgivable .
That's not really an unforgivable. The three unforgivables are Odin, Thor, and Loki.
Originally posted by hunbu04
Orion can do anything thor can do plus he is physically more powerful
No, he can't.

What can do to that Orion can't do or cancel

GodBlast can be cancel by the Full Power Astro hardness/Astro Force

Originally posted by hunbu04
What can do to that Orion can't do or cancel

Summon storms, I'd imagine.

Originally posted by hunbu04
Orion can do anything thor can do plus he is physically more powerful

that is your opinion.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Summon storms, I'd imagine.

He did control weather once and called upon lightning.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He did control weather once and called upon lightning.

Anything on the level of Thor?

And by your use of the word "once", I'm going to assume it was either a one time feat or used under certain circumstances. Superman and Captain Marvel can herd weather patterns and influence existing weather conditions; doesn't mean they can summon storms on the level of, well, Storm, let alone Thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Anything on the level of Thor?

And by your use of the word "once", I'm going to assume it was either a one time feat or used under certain circumstances. Superman and Captain Marvel can herd weather patterns and influence existing weather conditions; doesn't mean they can summon storms on the level of, well, Storm, let alone Thor.

Nope, but he has done it. Which is why the other op said Orion is almost as versatile as Thor. Orion has pretty much done it all, but I'd still rate Thor more versatile. But not by much. It would be a good fight, even split, IMO.

Originally posted by hunbu04
What can do to that Orion can't do or cancel
Godblast, soulsuck.
Originally posted by hunbu04
GodBlast can be cancel by the Full Power Astro hardness/Astro Force
No, it can't.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Anything on the level of Thor?

And by your use of the word "once", I'm going to assume it was either a one time feat or used under certain circumstances. Superman and Captain Marvel can herd weather patterns and influence existing weather conditions; doesn't mean they can summon storms on the level of, well, Storm, let alone Thor.

BTW, who do you think wins? With and without Zor.

Orion have summon cosmic storms before and his personal motherbox can do almost everything the hammer can. He was even stated on panel that His Astro Force could destory Worlds if he didn't control his rage. MotherBox can manipulate matter and energy, space and Time and even uinversal cosmic awareness.
Sorry BFR wouldn't work via Boom tubes

Originally posted by hunbu04
Orion have summon cosmic storms before and his personal motherbox can do almost everything the hammer can. He was even stated on panel that His Astro Force could destory Worlds if he didn't control his rage. MotherBox can manipulate matter and energy, space and Time and even uinversal cosmic awareness.
Sorry BFR wouldn't work via Boom tubes
What's so impressive about destroying worlds ? Why can't Thor just destroy the motherbox.

Originally posted by hunbu04
Orion have summon cosmic storms before and his personal motherbox can do almost everything the hammer can. He was even stated on panel that His Astro Force could destory Worlds if he didn't control his rage. MotherBox can manipulate matter and energy, space and Time and even uinversal cosmic awareness.
Sorry BFR wouldn't work via Boom tubes

By your own admission, "almost" isn't the same as everything.

Thor was said to possess the ability to destroy worlds with Mjolnir on panel, as well. Mjolnir can manipulate matter, energy, space, and time. While it doesn't possess cosmic awareness on its own, it can recall events past and even show possible futures. BFR likewise won't work via Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
BTW, who do you think wins? With and without Zor.

Depends on the Asgard in question, imo.

Highfather = Odin
Orion = Thor

get over it people really.

As for the rest, it really depends on the tech and the numbers, what is the Population of NG and Asgard?

In prep war NG roflstomps asgard. Genesis box, worloggog etc. In straight up battle its split IMO. Orion and thor are perfect for a duel and it would be a long and brutal fight between the Dog of war and the God of thunder.

Odin
Tiwaz
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Red Norvell
Kurse
Warriors Three
Loki
Enchantress
Loki
Hela
Asgardian Destroyer

Im taking Asgard, like Jake witch Asgard? If this classic Asgard Odin can amp his people if need be they will handle NG!!

Originally posted by the Darkone
Odin
Tiwaz
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Red Norvell
Kurse
Warriors Three
Loki
Enchantress
Loki
Hela
Asgardian Destroyer

Im taking Asgard, like Jake witch Asgard? If this classic Asgard Odin can amp his people if need be they will handle NG!!

New Genesis can match most of those.
Forever People
High Father
Metron
Lightray
Orion
Scott Free (Sometimes with ALE)
Mantis
Valkyrie
Big Barda
Celestia
Himon
Infinity Man (Sometimes connected to the Source)
Monitors
Takion
Aurakles

Plus artifacts that can manipulate universes.

Odin is the deal breaker here in my opinion.

His standard feats supersede almost anything I've seen from the New Gods (I'm talking on average).

Outside of Orion, Infinity Man, Barda and Mr Miracle (with ALE), the New Gods don't really have many high end feats between them.