Specter vs Superman

Started by Cogito3 pages

Quan, the burden of proof is on you to show that it can work on CA Superman. I don't need to prove a negative.

But...CA Superman, by definition, instantly adapts to any attack. Transmutation included.

And if Spectre could just transmute any opponent into salt, he probably would. But since he doesn't, one logically assumes that he can't.

Originally posted by Cogito
Quan, the burden of proof is on you to show that it can work on CA Superman. I don't need to prove a negative.

But...CA Superman, by definition, instantly adapts to any attack. Transmutation included.

And if Spectre could just transmute any opponent into salt, he probably would. But since he doesn't, one logically assumes that he can't.

I proved it already worked. If you can't prove the cosmic armor can resist then you don't have anything. This was fun.

That's hyperbole. It's like saying Odin is omnipotent. In comics bfr suddenly isn't used on Doomsday that doesn't mean darkseid lost the ability to bfr his opponents.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I proved it already worked. If you can't prove the cosmic armor can resist then you don't have anything. This was fun.

😂

You're pretending Superman and CA Superman are one in the same. They're not.

Originally posted by Cogito
😂

You're pretending Superman and CA Superman are one in the same. They're not.

I never said they were but if you think the tactic won't work you need to prove it. Your argument is based on hyperbole. Odin is omnipotent, right ?

Quan, stop being so bloody stupid.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Quan, stop being so bloody stupid.
Hey, it's a fair point. If we give the cosmic armor the hyperbole benefit why not Odin ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said they were but if you think the tactic won't work you need to prove it. Your argument is based on hyperbole. Odin is omnipotent, right ?

One never needs to prove that a strategy won't work.

The Cosmic Armor, by definition, adapts to anything. Superman inside of it defeating a being that was explicitly more powerful than the Spectre. You have yet to address that point, and since I know you won't, I'm not going to lose any sleep waiting.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hey, it's a fair point. If we give the cosmic armor the hyperbole benefit why not Odin ?

No, it isn't a fair point, so seriously, stop it. Even Bada won't put up with this stupidity.

Originally posted by Cogito
One never needs to prove that a strategy won't work.

The Cosmic Armor, by definition, adapts to anything. Superman inside of it defeating a being that was explicitly more powerful than the Spectre. You have yet to address that point, and since I know you won't, I'm not going to lose any sleep waiting.

Look you are welcome to your opinion. This is all debatable but my point stands. I for one don't see Ca being able to adapt to anything. If you feel it adapts to the Presence and beats the Presence that's your right as a poster. I disagree.

This is the Spectre backed by the Presence. I know it doesn't exist but for the purposes of the thread you are asking me to believe Ca is more powerful than the Presence. I disagree. Nothing really more to say.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, it isn't a fair point, so seriously, stop it. Even Bada won't put up with this stupidity.
Well, I just said I don't see it being able to adapt to the Presence's power which is in play here. But fine. You want to use mod powers we just disagree.

Since a "fully backed Spectre" doesn't exist on panel, I'm not assuming such a character is the Presence's equal.

The Presence would beat CA Superman, if that helps you sleep.

Originally posted by Cogito
Since a "fully backed Spectre" doesn't exist on panel, I'm not assuming such a character is the Presence's equal.

The Presence would beat CA Superman, if that helps you sleep.

It's a theoretical thread. It's like saying Henshaw with a sun dip.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, I just said I don't see it being able to adapt to the Presence's power which is in play here. But fine. You want to use mod powers we just disagree.

If it was just a disagreement I wouldn't have to.

Presence =/= Spectre

Originally posted by -Pr-
If it was just a disagreement I wouldn't have to.
Don't you see my point with regards to this theoretical thread ? I am not saying Loki uses a spell to override it I am saying a Spectre backed Presence does so.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, it isn't a fair point, so seriously, stop it. Even Bada won't put up with this stupidity.
mmm

I could be persuaded to. 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a theoretical thread. It's like saying Henshaw with a sun dip.

So you're turning this into CA Superman vs. The Presence, rather than the Spectre.

In that case, the Presence wins. But the Spectre still loses.

Originally posted by Cogito
So you're turning this into CA Superman vs. The Presence, rather than the Spectre.

In that case, the Presence wins. But the Spectre still loses.

I am saying using the powers of the Presence at his disposal I see the Spectre winning.

Originally posted by Cogito
So you're turning this into CA Superman vs. The Presence, rather than the Spectre.

In that case, the Presence wins. But the Spectre still loses.

What has Spectre done with the Presence's powers? Didn't Ostrander's Spectre merged with all of creation?

Wasn't Spectre backed by the Presence when he fought CoIE Anti Monitor?

Spectre wins regardless imo.