Gladiator and Beta Ray Bill vs Black Bolt and Thor

Originally posted by dmills
How do you give glads the edge over BB when he's beaten or has held an advantage him every time they've faced off? There isn't a single encounter that I can recall where glads has looked better.

Gladiator fears BB voice and avoids it at any cost. Those are the time hes been defeated by Bolt. Even Sentry fears facing BB. Black Bolt has beaten everyone he has faced down to Hulk, Magneto, Sphinx, Gladiator, one shot Thing, and the list goes on but overall, Gladiator is just superior imo.

I also remember that scene where Gladiator took on both Black Bolt and Quasar and had the lead over them.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor>Gladiator>Bill=Black Bolt. If it came down to it, either of these combatants can beat the other. Didn't Black Bolt have the edge against Thor until Thor hit his antenna?

Not really.

The three are peers (Bill =/> Black Bolt =/> Gladiator). Your ranking is especially flawed since Black Bolt has looked equal or better against Gladiator in all of their confrontations. Barring the scene where the Guard member depowered Black Bolt but even then, he looked like he had the edge earlier.

Also, no, Black Bolt didn't have the advantage. You either have some really shitty memory or are lying.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt6.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
i twas pretty even actually. Thor just found a way to end it quicker.

No sir

Who do you think would have won if the fight kept going?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really.

The three are peers (Bill =/> Black Bolt =/> Gladiator).

Also, no, Black Bolt didn't have the advantage. You either have some really shitty memory or are trolling.

Rage, this is your opinion. Bill isn't greater than Black Bolt by the way and he sure as hell is greater than Gladiator but again, this is your opinion.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator fears BB voice and avoids it at any cost. Those are the time hes been defeated by Bolt. Even Sentry fears facing BB. Black Bolt has beaten everyone he has faced down to Hulk, Magneto, Sphinx, Gladiator, one shot Thing, and the list goes on but overall, Gladiator is just superior imo.

I also remember that scene where Gladiator took on both Black Bolt and Quasar and had the lead over them.

You don't need to list the king's greatest hits list to me, I know it like the back of my hand. I'm just confused as to your reasoning behind giving Glads the edge.

Originally posted by carver9
Who do you think would have won if the fight kept going?

Thor. He'd have one of those kick it up a notch moments and take the King out.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really.

The three are peers (Bill =/> Black Bolt =/> Gladiator). Your ranking is especially flawed since Black Bolt has looked equal or better against Gladiator in all of their confrontations. Barring the scene where the Guard member depowered Black Bolt but even then, he looked like he had the edge earlier.

Also, no, Black Bolt didn't have the advantage. You either have some really shitty memory or are lying.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsBlackBolt6.jpg

Phucking terrible.

Originally posted by dmills
You don't need to list the king's greatest hits list to me, I know it like the back of my hand. I'm just confused as to your reasoning behind giving Glads the edge.

Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

Originally posted by carver9
Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

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Originally posted by carver9
Rage, this is your opinion. Bill isn't greater than Black Bolt by the way and he sure as hell is greater than Gladiator but again, this is your opinion.

If I had to chose, I'd pick Bill over either Gladiator or Black Bolt for the most part.

Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator fears BB voice and avoids it at any cost. Those are the time hes been defeated by Bolt. Even Sentry fears facing BB. Black Bolt has beaten everyone he has faced down to Hulk, Magneto, Sphinx, Gladiator, one shot Thing, and the list goes on but overall, Gladiator is just superior imo.

I also remember that scene where Gladiator took on both Black Bolt and Quasar and had the lead over them.

Scans? I'm pretty certain that didn't happen. Make sure I'm not online before making stuff up.

Also, lol at Gladiator being superior to Black Bolt.

Originally posted by carver9
Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

Originally posted by carver9
Because Glads is stronger, faster, more durable, and a better fighter. Black Bolt edge is his versatility. Every fight BB has won against Gladiator has been using his voice.

Hahahahaha!

Originally posted by dmills
Phucking terrible.

Thor was gonna win that shit one way or another. At least Bolt has an out there and we can speculate that Mjolnir's energy manipulating capabilities had an adverse effect on Black Bolt's energy manipulation.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If I had to chose, I'd pick Bill over either Gladiator or Black Bolt for the most part.

Scans? I'm pretty certain that didn't happen. Make sure I'm not online before making stuff up.

Also, lol at Gladiator being superior to Black Bolt.

Scans of what?

All of their encounters (Thanks to Thorion):

First encounter with Gladiator (not really a fight, but a surprise attack).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/glads1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/glads2.jpg
After using his voice on Gladiator, which sent Gladiator reeling (Gladiator rejoins the fight a couple pages later), Black Bolt takes down Voyager of the Imperial Guard.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/voyager.jpg

Black Bolt vs Gladiator. We were shown bits and pieces of the battle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/shiar6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/shiar7.jpg
Flashback to a part of the same battle from another book.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/pachecog.jpg

Latest Black Bolt vs Gladiator fight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/iguard2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/iguard3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/iguard4.jpg
We don't see Black Bolt for a couple pages, and then...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/iguard5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/iguard6.jpg

I'd also like to point out, that in the second fight, Black Bolt had been in agony just moments ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/shiar5.jpg

Originally posted by dmills
Scans of what?

Of Gladiator apparently having the edge over both Black Bolt and Quasar.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor was gonna win that shit one way or another. At least Bolt has an out there and we can speculate that Mjolnir's energy manipulating capabilities had an adverse effect on Black Bolt's energy manipulation.

I got no issue with BB losing to Thor. As a fan I just hate to see it being in a cop out fashion on the part of the writers. Give us a good fight and let the chips fall where they may.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Yet in every fight he also went hand to hand just fine

I never said he was weak. Gladiator fears him though, I can tell by looking at their fights.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
All of their encounters (Thanks to Thorion):

I'd also like to point out, that in the second fight, Black Bolt had been in agony just moments ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/shiar5.jpg

Of Gladiator apparently having the edge over both Black Bolt and Quasar.

Oh. It's actually in the scene that takes place prior to the first set of scans that you posted. Much ado about nothing though. Carver over throwing the ball as usual.

Originally posted by dmills
Oh. It's actually in the scene that takes place prior to the first set of scans that you posted. Much ado about nothing though. Carver over throwing the ball as usual.

Can you post the scan? Unless my comic is missing a page, I don't see Gladiator even taking on both Quasar and Black Bolt much less winning. Once he teleports in, he takes Gladiator out of the picture and by the time the Praetor returns, Lockjaw teleports him out.

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