Originally posted by Endless MikeWhat about that 2005 guide scan that was just posted?
In fact, not a single word (literally) is mentioned about "Last Planet Standing"
or anything at all that took place with in.
That goes for LT's 2006 Handbook, or his 2010 Handbook updated bio,
or any official/unofficial online bio site. (including LT's 2011 updated Marvel site)
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt's all a matter of perspective. One could say that Reed directly owned LT with his own energies--effectively 'beating him' for "a few hours." He did this to the entire hierarchy, in fact.
Although it is funny when people who even have the issue pump the same fallacies.
Here's the scene in its entirety, so people can decide for themselves:
Originally posted by Mr Master...Which doesn't change the fact that the MC2 universe (which is the universe LPS took place in) was recognized as a canon alternate universe, in an official Marvel Handbook (Earth-982.) The reason LPS isn't mentioned in said Handbook is because it was released after the Handbook was published. That, however, certainly doesn't mean the events of LPS aren't canon to the MC2 universe. That'd be a laughable deduction... It's the SAME universe.
There's no mention whatsoever of the LT ever being there,
or having anything to do with that reality,In fact, not a single word (literally) is mentioned about "Last Planet Standing"
or anything at all that took place with in.That goes for LT's 2006 Handbook, or his 2010 Handbook updated bio,
or any official/unofficial online bio site. (including LT's 2011 updated Marvel site)
Anywho, since LT appeared in an alternate universe that Marvel officially recognized as canon, that makes any showings he acquired in said universe (both low and high) canon to him--as he exists in all realities of the multiverse simultaneously, etc.
But yeah, doesn't really matter.
Originally posted by Galan007yeah i think i agree. 👆
It's all a matter of perspective. One could say that Reed directly owned LT with his own energies--effectively 'beating him' for "a few hours." He did this to the entire hierarchy, in fact.Here's the scene in its entirety, so people can decide for themselves:
...Which doesn't change the fact that the MC2 universe (which is the universe LPS took place in) was recognized as a canon alternate universe, in an official Marvel Handbook (Earth-982.) The reason LPS isn't mentioned in said Handbook is because it was released after the Handbook was published. That, however, certainly doesn't mean the events of LPS aren't canon to the MC2 universe. That'd be a laughable deduction... It's the SAME universe.
Anywho, since LT appeared in an alternate universe that Marvel officially recognized as canon, that makes any showings he acquired in said universe (both low and high) canon to him--as he exists in all realities of the multiverse simultaneously, etc.
But yeah, doesn't really matter.
per marvel, lt is omnipresent and exists in all universes in all multiverses at the same time.
per marvel, mc2 is a legit alternate universe within the multiverse. they even gave it a numerical designation.
the only logical conclusion is that lt being owned (and i hate using that term) by reeds gun is a canon showing for him. just because bios don't mention that particular event doesn't make it non canon.... it still took place in a universe that marvel had already deemed canon, afterall. its really a simple matter of 1+1.
^ = My sentiments as well. I can't think of a character (no matter how powerful) that doesn't have a low feat of SOME kind. Not really that big of a deal.
Anyway, I believe Mxy as he was portrayed during WF would defeat LT. Imo, LT's judgement/divine powa would be slapped aside just like Spectre was... Which certainly isn't a jab at LT--Mxy simply had no limitations in that story (a fact he proved multiple times.)
Originally posted by Galan007It's all a matter of perspective. One could say that Reed directly owned LT
with his own energies--effectively 'beating him' for "a few hours."
He did this to the entire hierarchy, in fact.Here's the scene in its entirety, so people can decide for themselves:
It only shows Reed blasting his canon into the ball of concentrated power
belonging to the LT and the hierarchy,
which then caused a feedback that bfr'd the Cosmics.
The LT & Cosmics weren't even hit by the canon blast,
and they never even saw it coming which is more comedy for this donkey shit story.
Look, although this story is obviously a joke,
at-least fooling around I'd say Reed affected the LT had Reed attacked the LT's person,
and even better had Reed actually attacked a "ready" LT.
Not this MC2 LT who can't even sense Reed's canon,
yet the same LT senses everything that's going on in the Multiverse simultaneously. durlaugh
Originally posted by Galan007...Which doesn't change the fact that the MC2 universe (which is the
universe LPS took place in) was recognized as a canon alternate universe, in
an official Marvel Handbook (Earth-982.) The reason LPS isn't mentioned in
said Handbook is because it was released after the Handbook was
published. That, however, certainly doesn't mean the events of LPS aren't
canon to the MC2 universe. That'd be a laughable deduction... It's the SAME
universe.Anywho, since LT appeared in an alternate universe that Marvel officially
recognized as canon, that makes any showings he acquired in said universe
(both low and high) canon to him--as he exists in all realities of the
multiverse simultaneously, etc.
The LT's bio in the "Thanos Sourcebook" ... 2011
(another source of bios strictly for cosmics)
again,
nothing mentioned concerning anything involving "LPS."
**
So, everything the LT every did on panel (even just talk)
is referenced in detail in all his bios,
except what took place in Last Planet Standing,
which doesn't even have a hint of ever being.
Coincidence?
Where talking to Mephisto is referenced but not a major cosmic ordeal like the one in LPS?
hm
Originally posted by Mr MasterPlz tell me you're not saying that the events of LPS are non-canon, even though they took place in the MC2 universe, which has been confirmed as a canon alternate universe by Marvel..? I hope not, because that would really be... Something.
Not this MC2 LT who can't even sense Reed's canon,
yet the same LT senses everything that's going on in the Multiverse simultaneously. durlaughThe LT's bio, in the Handbook Update edition of 2010 is nearly identical to the 2006 bio,
with the addition of his 2007 She-Hulk appearances,
and his three 2010-2011 appearances (Chaos War - Mighty World of Marvel and Avengers Academy)The LT's bio in the "Thanos Sourcebook" ... 2011
(another source of bios strictly for cosmics)
again,
nothing mentioned concerning anything involving "LPS."**
So, everything the LT every did on panel (even just talk)
is referenced in detail in all his bios,
except what took place in Last Planet Standing,
which doesn't even have a hint of ever being.Coincidence?
Where talking to Mephisto is referenced but not a major cosmic ordeal like the one in LPS
hm
Anyway, MC2 is a canon Marvel universe. Fact. There is only one LT, and he exists in all universes of the multiverse simultaneously. Fact. That said, logic dictates that LT's showing(s) in LPS are canon to him. An event not being mentioned in bios doesn't make it automatically non-canon by default. Just my opinion on the matter.
Originally posted by Galan007Plz tell me you're not saying that the events of LPS are non-canon, even
though they took place in the MC2 universe, which has been confirmed as a
canon alternate universe by Marvel..? I hope not, because that would really
be... Something.
Although it is a fact that LT has only so many appearances,
and they're all mentioned in his bio in the 2010 Handbook update edition,
they're also referenced in his bio within the Thanos Sourcebook (handbook solely for cosmics across the board)
Marvel.com's 2011 refresh of LT's bio shares this stance.
Yet, not a word about the LPS story.
It makes sense to overlook this nonsense
when the bio writer has to include the reason behind the LT appearing at all,
which was,
to join forces with the Cosmic hierarchy to take out a single alternate Galactus?
That's just my opinion, but I can see why the handbook writers would run from this. 😂
It's out of character.
It's like Spiderman being stronger than the Hulk in a story for no reason at all.
Senseless.
Originally posted by Galan007Anyway, MC2 is a canon Marvel universe. Fact. There is only one LT, and
he exists in all universes of the multiverse simultaneously. Fact. That said,
logic dictates that LT's showing(s) in LPS are canon to him. An event not
being mentioned in bios doesn't make it automatically non-canon by default.
Just my opinion on the matter.
It's also highly stipulated.
In order for Reed's feat to work again,
the LT has to gather the rest of the hierarchy,
they have to huddle and combine their powers in a ball of energy,
while the LT & Cosmics are distracted with the merging of their powers
then Reed fires the canon at the ball of energy from miles away
which they somehow never see coming.
Just sayin, imo, this particular story should have no bearing on LT's history,
because this is definitely (for several reasons) not the LT that's supposed to be beneath TOAA.
Originally posted by Mr MasterGood. Just making sure.
If you're reading my posts you'd know I've never said that.
...Didn't figure you were that wacky. 😛
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt's still a canon showing for LT, because it took place in a canon Marvel universe. It's called "a bad feat." Every character (no matter how powerful/divine) has them. EVERY character. However, said showing certainly doesn't outweigh the rest of LT's extensive history showcasing him as the top dog in Marvel--just like Mxy getting a hole blasted through him by Gog doesn't outweigh the rest of his remarkable feats (destroying/recreating DC in its entirety, for instance.) PIS might be canon at times, but it's still PIS.
Just sayin, imo, this particular story should have no bearing on LT's history,
because this is definitely (for several reasons) not the LT that's supposed to be beneath TOAA.
People who only try to use a single low-end feat against a character, as though it somehow trumps the dozens of other high-end feats that character has, are nothing but biased idiots. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by Galan007Just like people who fall back on one high end showing are clearly biased fools as well. It goes both ways. 🙂
People who only try to use a single low-end feat against a character, as though it somehow trumps the dozens of other high-end feats that character has, are nothing but biased idiots. Plain and simple.
