Triple threat match:Mario vs. link vs. Samus

Wah, I finally have time again.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The one with the short duration isnt the best thing for combat, the one with the start up lag however can be useful if Samus were to take care of Link first.

Yeah, I'm still fairly certain Samus could take one of them out only if she managed to do it before they got their defenses and hax up. Which would take some time for them to do.

Fair point. Guess its up to the OP who wont read this post to give us an answer.

's why I think is kind of a dumb match.

Oh right, Link has things outside of SS, TP and OoT.. Do those transforms work on every enemy?

Much love to the Four Sword. Is he able to use this sword then switch it out for the Phantom or MS? The masks sneaky but it fails to work on many enemies. And Id bet her scanners would pick up on it.

Spell works on quite a few, but not bosses as per standard.

How the Four Sword interacts with other swords is pretty speculative since it's the only one in its respective games, but other items can be used normally. As for the stone mask, I'm not sure. Required enemies like bosses can see it (more elite Gerudo even have dialogue saying they aren't fooled) while mooks will ignore you even after you attack. It's completely arbitrary. Meanwhile, it's not actual invisibility so much as Link being too boring to notice. He's perfectly visible, but the mask makes it so others ignore him. Don't know if a visor would change that.

As for Link being blitzed, yeah he's fast and has reactions, but not all the stuff he can do quickly would hinder Samus too much. Even if he can swat lightning, he's not a mobile as Samus and the Master Sword is probably not able to reflect her attacks. Nayru's Love and Cane of Byrna can't stop the Wave Beam, though the Mirror Shield likely could if the wide beam wasn't making the beam larger than Link himself. Triforce and most spells take time, though again stone mask hax could certainly give him the win, especially if there are 3 other Links running interference.

Mario...I'm going to look into the Purity Heart affect things other than the Chaos Heart. If it can't, that's disappointing and I'll revise the winner to Link.

Actually it looks as though the master sword or mirror sheild could kbock either of those back.

Either the Wave beam or Wide beam? Eh, I don't think it's too likely.

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As an example. The beam Samus is using there is a combination of the Wave, Wide, and Plasma Beams. The SA-X has all of the above plus Ice. Anyway, Samus is taller than Link and the beam is bigger than she is. The Mirror Shield isn't large enough to block all of it, and I'm not really sure how Link would go about using the Master Sword against that.

But this super link( never liked that idea) has like four mirror shields and i still don't know much about metroid but don't most of he beams have a charge up time giving link enough time to use cane of bryna/nayrus love which covers him from all sides.

^ The Master Sword hasnt deflected anything like a beam before. That and iirc it would only reflect magic, which her shots are not.

@Scene: Probably mis-reading, you saying that Link can get the time to make a Triforce wish while using the stone mask with three other Link's being a distraction? If so then that would be his only method of winning. Especially as he has nothing else to attack her with.

The mirror sheild reflected light arrows
those are kinda like lasers and such. Also link has light bomb and silver arrows powder kegs the fierce deity mask and the like five super magic swords. He doesn't have to wait for samus to attack to at least do some damage. One more thing, what is difference between magic and twch?

Twch=tech...sorry

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
But this super link( never liked that idea) has like four mirror shields and i still don't know much about metroid but don't most of he beams have a charge up time giving link enough time to use cane of bryna/nayrus love which covers him from all sides.

I don't think Link can actually use more than one shield at once, so it's still unlikely that he can fully block it. Samus' beams have the option to charge, and become much more powerful that way, but they are fully capable of spamming.

Then, the Wave beam is purpose built to penetrate walls and barriers, and can go through force fields as long as they're transparent. Here, note the description and how Samus can fire through the glass.

@Scene: Probably mis-reading, you saying that Link can get the time to make a Triforce wish while using the stone mask with three other Link's being a distraction? If so then that would be his only method of winning. Especially as he has nothing else to attack her with.

Maybe I wasn't being very clear, sorry. I do think that having 3 copies of himself would give Link time to use so of his other hax, but not necessarily the Triforce. Samus is immune to a lot of things, but a good old fashioned Golden Gauntlets blow with a sword might not be among them. The strongest guys in Metroid tend to be around 100 tonners physically, Ghor being 136 tons and Kraid weighing 110 (IIRC) with unknown strength. Ridley wrecked a mountain with a plasma blast, which Samus is explicitly immune to, while his physical strength is probably single digit tons or less. He can crush metal (steel?) with one claw and break walls and stuff.

Anyway I still don't think Samus really has resistance to transformations like Spell, or time stops.

those are kinda like lasers and such. Also link has light bomb and silver arrows powder kegs the fierce deity mask and the like five super magic swords. He doesn't have to wait for samus to attack to at least do some damage. One more thing, what is difference between magic and twch?

Light Arrows are pretty much normal arrows sheathed in the burning light of JUSTICE, I don't think they're very much like lasers. Same for the Silver Arrows. Either way, the Mirror Shield doesn't stop a beam that doesn't hit it. Essentially, the wide beam can hit High, Middle, and Low. The Mirror Shield, or any shield for that matter, can only really defend one of area at a time, or two if you're lucky. The Fierce Deity takes time and we don't know how strong it is. Powder Keg takes far too long to be useful. Magic swords:

-Master Sword: Useful if he can hit Samus, but her mobility and preference for range makes it difficult. Skyward Strike can give a ranged attack, but it's slow and the range is short. I personally don't think it can reflect beams or missiles. Destroys evil, too, but that's not really applicable here.

-Four Sword: Useful if only for the clones it provides. I believe it's also evil's bane.

-Phantom Sword: Has a time stop, so potential game winner if Ciela is available. Also has sword beams and can be set on fire if the other 2 fairies are available, but they're largely useless.

I'm drawing a blank on any swords better than those, or with more special powers. Biggoron's Sword, Great Fairy's Sword, Gilded Sword, etc. are pretty normal and not much better than the Master Sword if at all. Link's strength can do some damage, but I'm of the opinion that he'll win with magic. Or the Triforce.

Golden sword is around double the master sword and can easily spam sword blasts at full health. Pegasus boots plus gold gauntlets plus golden sword equals pain.

Maybe I wasn't being very clear, sorry. I do think that having 3 copies of himself would give Link time to use so of his other hax, but not necessarily the Triforce. Samus is immune to a lot of things, but a good old fashioned Golden Gauntlets blow with a sword might not be among them. The strongest guys in Metroid tend to be around 100 tonners physically, Ghor being 136 tons and Kraid weighing 110 (IIRC) with unknown strength. Ridley wrecked a mountain with a plasma blast, which Samus is explicitly immune to, while his physical strength is probably single digit tons or less. He can crush metal (steel?) with one claw and break walls and stuff.

Anyway I still don't think Samus really has resistance to transformations like Spell, or time stops.

Limited Metroid knowledge here, but Kraid (maybe Ridley too?) is likely Large-Building level with its hits, also from virtue of size, 6 stories high 'n all. If so and Samus can take hits from them, she can take hits from Link.

I wouldnt go with the time stops, for transformation I'm a little iffy on. I'm not really sure with things like that if the defendant needs to show resistance to it, or if the attacker needs to be able to effect any level of enemies. E.g. Using Spell on a high ranking Marvel character that hasn't shown resistance to it.

Why not time stop?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Golden sword is around double the master sword and can easily spam sword blasts at full health. Pegasus boots plus gold gauntlets plus golden sword equals pain.

It's an upgrade to the Master Sword, and I'm fairly certain its extra power is for affecting evil. Still, it should hurt. On the other hand I don't see the Pegasus Boots being too useful.

Limited Metroid knowledge here, but Kraid (maybe Ridley too?) is likely Large-Building level with its hits, also from virtue of size, 6 stories high 'n all. If so and Samus can take hits from them, she can take hits from Link.

Possibly. I agree, but lack of feats makes it difficult to determine Ridley's strength, and Kraid doesn't do much besides stomp Samus and get 2-shotted. I don't think Link could kill Samus instantly, but his hits would smart a bit.

I wouldnt go with the time stops, for transformation I'm a little iffy on. I'm not really sure with things like that if the defendant needs to show resistance to it, or if the attacker needs to be able to effect any level of enemies. E.g. Using Spell on a high ranking Marvel character that hasn't shown resistance to it.

I wouldn't know how to call that. What Spell affects or doesn't affect is pretty much arbitrary. Contractual Boss Immunity and all that. Time stop is still dependent on how Ciela is factored in to this.

The songs of time slows down most everybody (ironically it is shown to be particularly effective against alien tech) it takes longer but with three other links running interference it could be applicable.

Really?! Samus! wanna know why??? cause first off, look... the Varia suit, Mario... your not getting threw that. Link, Samus can just blast you and your gonna be done. Plain and simple.

Isn't link always getting blasted...and then tennis-ing it right back?

All you people, I'm a proud Nintendo® Fan of Link, Mario, Kirby etc. I got nothing against any of Mario or links abilitys, but Really, Samus, Hands down. Btw, My 3DS friend code will be given to those who want it, just tell me yours!

I still think Mario and Link have too much hax in their composite forms. Only edge Samus really has is speed and mobility.

Agreed

So why does that 1vs1vs1 thread get locked while this one remains unlocked?

Hulkbuster's got some impressive cloaking tech I'll give him that.