Originally posted by h1a8
I said[b]If
a pissed off Odin can't penetrate Umar's barrier then yes.That's a conditional statement that doesn't favor any side. [/B]
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
A conditional statement is only made in the context of a scenario whose outcome is unknown . The fact that you have to impose a conditionality on what a pissed off Odin can do in this regard , again tells me you that you are unaware of what a pissed off Odin can do .
Me being unaware of what Odin can do is irrelevant.
Can a piss off Odin penetrate Umar's barrier with one attack?
If so, then is this based off his highest feats ever or just his average feats?
If it is based off his average feats then which feats?
So it's simple. Just answer the questions.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I guess you still won't answer a simple question.A cc level blast is far more powerful than anything the Hulk can do. But provide proof Hulk's crushed someone of Thanos' durability head clean off.
Correction: A cc level blast is far more powerful than anything WBH has ever done.
With that said, you are not correct. In comics characters power output fluctuate. That means sometimes, in comics, characters are going to tank blasts and hits far above them and also characters are not going to hit or blast with their best power output ever all the time. For example, Glads hitting a random joe with his fist doesn't mean he is hitting them with planet destroying power or anywhere in the vicinity of it. Otherwise I can prove Colossus can easily tank planet destroying punches.
So Thanos surviving a cc blast doesn't mean that the blast was as great as it was ever shown or anywhere close. IMO, WBH tanked a force far beyond most things ever shown in Marvel (including everthing Thanos has ever tanked).
In conclusion, you are a con artist. People think you are a troll in which you are in a way. You are a troll for PURPOSELY twisting and using false logic of what will happen. Your greatest con is to use the argument:
1. Thanos has withstood X
2. X has done Y in the past as it's highest showing
3. Thus Thanos withstand Y and thus can't be harmed
This is faulty since it would allow all types of stupid contradictions to exist. It also assumes that everytime you see a character perform an action in comics then that action is equal to their greatest feats ever. The con game is over.
Originally posted by h1a8Considering what it's capable of it's more powerful so since we don't have a power gauge for every single attack it should suffice.
Correction: A cc level blast is far more powerful than anything WBH has ever done.With that said, you are not correct. In comics characters power output fluctuate. That means sometimes, in comics, characters are going to tank blasts and hits far above them and also characters are not going to hit or blast with their best power output ever. For example, Glads hitting a random joe with his fist doesn't mean he is hitting them with planet destroying power or anywhere in the vicinity of it. Otherwise I can prove Colossus can easily tank planet destroying punches.
So Thanos surviving a cc blast doesn't mean that the blast was as great as it was ever shown or anywhere close. IMO, WBH tanked a force far beyond most things ever shown in Marvel (including everthing Thanos has ever tanked).
In conclusion, you are a con artist. People think you are a troll in which you are in a way. You are a troll for PURPOSELY twisting and using false logic of what will happen. Your greatest con is to use the argument:
1. Thanos has withstood X
2. X has done Y in the past as it's highest showing
3. Thus Thanos withstand Y and thus can't be harmedThis is faulty since it would allow all types of stupid contradictions to exist. It also assumes that everytime you see a character perform an action in comics then that action is equal to their greatest feats ever. The con game is over.
Thanos wins based off superior showings.
Originally posted by h1a8
Me being unaware of what Odin can do is irrelevant.
Can a piss off Odin penetrate Umar's barrier with one attack?
If so, then is this based off his highest feats ever or just his average feats?
If it is based off his average feats then which feats?So it's simple. Just answer the questions.
Odin is far more powerful than Umar . His average energy output is indeed capable of busting Umar's barriers raised to the nth degree , and then some .
I am not going to spoon-feed you the feats . If you don't know about the characters you are debating about , then don't take such a well-defined stand .
Answered .
Originally posted by h1a8If you aren't aware of his powers you aren't aware of what he's capable of. You really don't get it.
How is it relevant to whether Odin can penetrate Umar's barrier with one attack?
He can or can't whether I know about him or not. Me knowing about Odin isn't going to change what he can do.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Considering what it's capable of it's more powerful so since we don't have a power gauge for every single attack it should suffice.Thanos wins based off superior showings.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Its relevant .Odin is far more powerful than Umar . His average energy output is indeed capable of busting Umar's barriers raised to the nth degree , and then some .
I am not going to spoon-feed you the feats . If you don't know about the characters you are debating about , then don't take such a well-defined stand .
Answered .
What I know or don't know doesn't change what Odin can or can't do. Either Odin can do it or he can't. Will me knowing change the facts?
I guess you don't know who Umar is, sister of Dormamuu. Umar is omnipotent is her own realm, supreme power. At minimum they are peers in her own realm.
Originally posted by h1a8
What I know or don't know doesn't change what Odin can or can't do. Either Odin can do it or he can't. Will me knowing change the facts?I guess you don't know who Umar is, sister of Dormamuu. Umar is omnipotent is her own realm, supreme power. At minimum they are peers in her own realm.
I know who Umar is . She's the current queen of the Dark Dimension . However , Satanna revealed that she was killed by her brother (prior to the wishing well incident) . Dormammu himself has claimed that his personal power rivals that of Odin or Zeus(although how much merit should be given to a character's self-hyperbole is up for debate) .
Odin>Umar , based on on-panel feats and displays of power . Deal with it .