World War Thor

Started by Damborgson8 pages
Originally posted by carver9
So with that said, you don't think Thor would try to hammer hit anyone (lol).?

Depends on the situation. He'd hammer sentry off of him if he got like hulk did though or something, he'd finish the injured, hammer guys off of him etc... but it wouldnt be like the hulk out there fighting.

and yeah Thor would be in trouble if he took to many shots from the adamantium shrapnel. But it wouldnt get to that. Thor has summoned multiple tornadoes and kept them in place even while being in his human alter ego. The armies would be devastated even if Thor was battling strange mentally.

Originally posted by zopzop
But the point is he can't do all of that at the same time. If he lets' go of Mjolnir to throw it as a weapon, there goes his force fields and energy absorption abilities.

Also I think Carver was talking about things like Dr. Strange confronting Hulk on the Astral Plane, leaving his body defenseless and inanimate while it's getting riddled with adamantium bullets.

If Strange pulled that trick with Thor, even if Thor eventually overpowered him on the Astral Plane and returned to his body, he'd be killed before he got the chance by all that incoming adamantium projectiles.

Strange was able to do that where he could not before because Hulk got impaled by all of those adamantium bullets He was basically taken out of action for a moment before he recovered and it allowed Strange to do that.Thor on the other hand would be able to protect himself.

Hulk also was being shielded by the war-bound when he was engage with Strange on the astral plane.All of that being said from what I remember Hulk was attacked from behind so while Thor has the capability to protect himself if put in the same situation and he does not see them coming he may be in trouble.

Originally posted by zopzop

If Strange pulled that trick with Thor, even if Thor eventually overpowered him on the Astral Plane and returned to his body, he'd be killed before he got the chance by all that incoming adamantium projectiles.

Thor could keep tornadoes going even while battling strange. The army would be done by the time he returned to his body.

Originally posted by zopzop
But the point is he can't do all of that at the same time. If he lets' go of Mjolnir to throw it as a weapon, there goes his force fields and energy absorption abilities.

Also I think Carver was talking about things like Dr. Strange confronting Hulk on the Astral Plane, leaving his body defenseless and inanimate while it's getting riddled with adamantium bullets.

If Strange pulled that trick with Thor, even if Thor eventually overpowered him on the Astral Plane and returned to his body, he'd be killed before he got the chance by all that incoming adamantium projectiles.

Thats exactly what I am saying.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Thor could keep tornadoes going even while battling strange. The army would be done by the time he returned to his body.

Huh? So Thor can use Tornadoes without using his brain?

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Strange was able to do that where he could not before because Hulk got impaled by all of those adamantium bullets He was basically taken out of action for a moment before he recovered and it allowed Strange to do that.Thor on the other hand would be able to protect himself.

Hulk also was being shielded by the war-bound when he was engage with Strange on the astral plane.All of that being said from what I remember Hulk was attacked from behind so while Thor has the capability to protect himself if put in the same situation and he does not see them coming he may be in trouble.

What is Thor best resistant ft from TP attacks?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
lmao

If everyone fights Thor the way they threw themselves at the Hulk, Thor would beat the crap out of them. It also helps that Thor doesn't need to fight in melee combat and can just hurl Mjolnir at people and summon lightning down from above.

Also, they already had World War Thor. It was called "The Reigning".

Pretty much. Such a lacklustre series too, after the excellence that was Planet Hulk.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Depends on the situation. He'd hammer sentry off of him if he got like hulk did though or something, he'd finish the injured, hammer guys off of him etc... but it wouldnt be like the hulk out there fighting.

and yeah Thor would be in trouble if he took to many shots from the adamantium shrapnel. But it wouldnt get to that. Thor has summoned multiple tornadoes and kept them in place even while being in his human alter ego. The armies would be devastated even if Thor was battling strange mentally.

You are CLEARLY missing the point and Hulk withstood adamantium sharpnel before being shielding by his friends. Thor would have died.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh? So Thor can use Tornadoes without using his brain?

He can cause them to stay formed independently of him having to sustain them.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He can cause them to stay formed independently of him having to sustain them.

While getting Mind raped? Scans.

Originally posted by carver9
You are CLEARLY missing the point and Hulk withstood adamantium sharpnel before being shielding by his friends. Thor would have died.

Well please go ahead and clarify it then.

What makes you say Thor would die? Or that the adamantium would ravage him as bad as it did hulk? His durability is superior to WWH's imo.

Originally posted by carver9
What is Thor best resistant ft from TP attacks?

It was a spell one that depended on Hulk letting him I am assuming the same requirements for Thor.The attack on Hulk and his condition let the door be opened an attack which Thor would be able to protect himself from.

But like I already stated above from what I remember the attack was a surprise so assuming that Thor would probably not be able to mount a defense.

Originally posted by carver9
You are CLEARLY missing the point and Hulk withstood adamantium sharpnel before being shielding by his friends. Thor would have died.

Yes but eventually he was shielded from the assault now whether he actually needed it or not is anyone's guess

Originally posted by carver9
While getting Mind raped? Scans.

Would you like me to bring you a scan of Thor bringing down lightning on the X-men to prove he could do it also? Theres no specific instance of Thor having self sustained tornadoes while having a battle on the astral plane with Dr.Strange Carver. :/

I dont have the scans, but he did it during secret wars. He summoned multiple tornadoes in order to distract the people of Broxton from the Asgardian/Skrull war about to take place. He gave his hammer to Beta Ray Bill and went to take care of some business at the hospital or something as Blake. The tornadoes stayed sustained.

Thor is much more durable than WWH.

Healing Capabilities-
And, how do we know anything about his healing abilities?
How often has he walked around, injured, after a serious fight?
I can only remember 1 time, (not including the period where he could not heal and then fought the Midgard Serpent).

Godly Anatomy-
Thor is not human. He is not even a mutated human, like the Hulk.
Whether you want to say he is an actual "God", or an alien, or something from another dimension, it might not be correct to label him with human frailties.

To Kill Thor-
So, how do we know the bullets would kill him, even if he just stood there and took it? How many times has Thor died? What has it taken to kill him in the past?
We know that Hulk is constantly getting torn completely apart, fried flayed, gutted, etc. Things that would have killed him MANY times over, if he didn't have a healing factor.
The same cannot be said for Thor, yet he has fought at the same level and higher.

Adamantium Bullets-
What is the most terrible damage he has sustained, and lived? How many times have you seen his skin pierced? Would the adamantium bullets have enough speed/power to get through his skin, even if the adamantium is much stronger than his skin? Did they each have a "monomolecular edge", as Logan's claws supposedly are?

Controlling the Elements-
Thor has shown, over and over, that it does not take any concentration or inactivity from him to keep his weather effects going.
He starts em up and lets em rip, while he goes on about his business.
And, I believe he has also unleashed other natural forces as well.
He could easily do something that would keep the majority of an attack force very, very busy.

I can go on and on...

Re: World War Thor

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor replaces the Hulk in the 5 issue world war hulk arc (not planet hulk). Is there anything the hulk did that Thor couldn't have done? Is there someone he couldn't have beaten? Could Thor have been stopped at the end?
Thor probably wouldn't have beaten Sentry in a straight-up brawl.

Re: World War Thor

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor replaces the Hulk in the 5 issue world war hulk arc (not planet hulk). Is there anything the hulk did that Thor couldn't have done? Is there someone he couldn't have beaten? Could Thor have been stopped at the end?

We know one thing for certain: Tony Stark's satellites wouldn't have taken down Thor.

Re: World War Thor

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor replaces the Hulk in the 5 issue world war hulk arc (not planet hulk). Is there anything the hulk did that Thor couldn't have done? Is there someone he couldn't have beaten? Could Thor have been stopped at the end?

If Thor had the same mindset as Hulk i.e. super pissed but still not willing to kill then no he isn't repeating what Hulk did nor is he enduring what Hulk did. Thor does have advantages that Hulk doesn't though and I see him beating the Hulkbuster armour pretty swiftly for example, similarly his lightning blast would have dropped most of the X-Men (although that's not the only way that fight could have played out).

I don't see Thor beating an all-out Sentry nor Zom/Strange plus he doesn't have a healing factor. Hulk essentially took down the majority of Earth's major teams and defenses with very little rest, this would be much more taxing on Thor.

Re: Re: World War Thor

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
We know one thing for certain: Tony Stark's satellites wouldn't have taken down Thor.

The satellite was prepped to take out Hulk just like it took out Sentry. We know one thing though, the UFOs wouldnt have taken out Hull the way they took Thor out.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor probably wouldn't have beaten Sentry in a straight-up brawl.

Neither did Hulk it was a stalemate...and Hulk got in a lot of free shots..

Re: Re: Re: World War Thor

Originally posted by carver9
The satellite was prepped to take out Hulk just like it took out Sentry. We know one thing though, the UFOs wouldnt have taken out Hull the way they took Thor out.

You're right, considering ONE OF THEM burned the Hulks flesh off and reduced him to skeleton, ALL OF THEN COMBINED, giving it "everything they have got", combined with the dark Avengers and Sentry, the hulk would have definitely done better.