Nagato vs whitebeard

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Originally posted by NemeBro
The source was magic. Enel's lightning, Crocodile's sand, Luffy's rubber body, and Whitebeard's quakes are not.

Would you use the same logic to claim that Nagato can absorb a punch from Luffy?

Not with Luffy, because Luffy's is basically taijutsu enhanced by stretchiness. If he grabbed him he might be able to drain the devil effect, but that's Luffy's actual fist there.

The others, though? When they actually produce an element from the fruit, that's really no different than doing a lighting/sand/quake jutsu.

Heck, when done in the air, it's *entirely* fruit effect in something that doesn't even naturally quake.


Regardless, equivelance doesn't really apply here.

I'd say it does. There's even similar OP effects that can shut down fruit (generally when done to the user directly, darkness fruit shutting down powers, but still).


I am not saying Whitebeard has to move to beat Nagato. He doesn't need to so much as shift his feet.

He throws a punch. This proceeds to kill Nagato.

It shouldn't. The quakes aren't focused at a distance. Nagato has Azura path armor, Deva path gravity-pulse, and Preta path absorption.

His quakes are powerful environmental-effect range, but his blows are only one-hit kill things when he's actually hitting you.

The only people he took out at a distance were those that couldn't handle the ground opening up beneath them or the like. Every time he took out someone tough, that was because he either punched them or hit them with his halberd.

At a distance, even *without* Preta absorption, he'll wreck havoc but won't be doing any one-hit kills with Nagato.

More specifications. Is it the Six paths of Pain or is it just Nagato? And is this Edo Nagato?

if it's Edo Nagato, I say he wins.

If it's Nagato back when he was alive or with the Six Paths of Pain, then Whitebeard wins.

Originally posted by Radunuya
More specifications. Is it the Six paths of Pain or is it just Nagato? And is this Edo Nagato?

if it's Edo Nagato, I say he wins.

If it's Nagato back when he was alive or with the Six Paths of Pain, then Whitebeard wins.

its healthy normal nagato who by the way stomps.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
its healthy normal nagato who by the way stomps.

Oh then Whitebeard wins with mid to high difficulty/effort.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Whitebeard should by all rights stomp him into the ground. He seems to have a stronger body than Zoro(who survived what amounts to a Shinra Tensei) and is strong enough to spin his weapon and knock back Nagato or his paths. Factoring his Gura Gura being stronger than basically all of Nagato's moves and the fact that he should be faster(not really sure on this cause Whitebeard never seemed all that fast to me but One Piece characters on the whole are faster and Whitebeard is high tier so eh) and he should by all accounts kill Nagato without much in the way of difficulty.

thread should have ended here...

Originally posted by draxx_tOfU
thread should have ended here...

no should have ended here
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/439/6
whitebeard aint beating that...

Yeah he is. He could Quake the shit out of it.

Whitebeard Split Marineford in Two... that ain't doing shit

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah he is. He could Quake the shit out of it.

Originally posted by Samurai100
Whitebeard Split Marineford in Two... that ain't doing shit

let me get this straight chibaku tensei absorbed this
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/439/4
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/439/5
it absorbed a tbb from six tailed naruto which did this
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/438/9
and on top of it all the chibaku tenei literally ripped mountains of the earth and you think that it cant take a few quakes which is all whitebeard is getting in before being crushed to death...
wow nice logic!

Whitebeard has never shown the capability to destroy a fully formed Chibaku Tensei with a quake, don't be stupid guys.

He still wins the first by exploding Nagato's brains before Nagato can do anything though.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
let me get this straight chibaku tensei absorbed this
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/439/4
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/439/5
it absorbed a tbb from six tailed naruto which did this
http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/438/9
and on top of it all the chibaku tenei literally ripped mountains of the earth and you think that it cant take a few quakes which is all whitebeard is getting in before being crushed to death...
wow nice logic!

8 Tailed Naruto was able to rip out with pure force.. I don't see why a few Quake enhanced punches from WB wouldn't have the same effect...

[This is all supposing Nagato is able to use Chibaku Tensei before getting blitzed by an opponent much stronger and Faster than him]

Originally posted by NemeBro
Whitebeard has never shown the capability to destroy a fully formed Chibaku Tensei with a quake, don't be stupid guys.

He still wins the first by exploding Nagato's brains before Nagato can do anything though.

WB can destroy the world. It is no hyperbole 😉

Originally posted by NemeBro
Whitebeard has never shown the capability to destroy a fully formed Chibaku Tensei with a quake, don't be stupid guys.

He still wins the first by exploding Nagato's brains before Nagato can do anything though.

Originally posted by Samurai100
8 Tailed Naruto was able to rip out with pure force.. I don't see why a few Quake enhanced punches from WB wouldn't have the same effect...

[This is all supposing Nagato is able to use Chibaku Tensei before getting blitzed by an opponent much stronger and Faster than him]


first of all your talking about 8/9 of the NINE TAILS power which far eclipses any thing whitebeard can do so dont expect whitebeard to do shit. Second to both of you nagato through the deva path reacted to six tailed naruto's speed and was able to out run him and dodge a rasenshuriken so trust me he can see whitebeard and counter with shinra tensei plus he is a sensor so he has a even better advantage.
Also he has all of his other paths which can summon easily a army like he did to invade konoha and he can use the asura path to fly and bombard whitebeard.

Originally posted by Bentley
WB can destroy the world. It is no hyperbole 😉

just no if he was struggling to tip marineford over he is definitely not destroying the world.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
first of all your talking about 8/9 of the NINE TAILS power which far eclipses any thing whitebeard can do so dont expect whitebeard to do shit. Second to both of you nagato through the deva path reacted to six tailed naruto's speed and was able to out run him and dodge a rasenshuriken so trust me he can see whitebeard and counter with shinra tensei plus he is a sensor so he has a even better advantage.
Also he has all of his other paths which can summon easily a army like he did to invade konoha and he can use the asura path to fly and bombard whitebeard.
.

1) Power Feats for the 8 Tails that put it above Whitebeards City busting Quakes or that statement has no value

2) When has the 6 tails been shown to be faster than Whitebeard? The guy is a Top Tier OP character, he is able to react to Kizaru... who travels at the speed of light...

3) The summons would get destroyed by a single quake, having shown nothing that can stand against such destructive power...

4) I get the feeling WB can take a bombardment from the Asura path, considering the amount of damage he soaked up in Marineford

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
first of all your talking about 8/9 of the NINE TAILS power which far eclipses any thing whitebeard can do so dont expect whitebeard to do shit. Second to both of you nagato through the deva path reacted to six tailed naruto's speed and was able to out run him and dodge a rasenshuriken so trust me he can see whitebeard and counter with shinra tensei plus he is a sensor so he has a even better advantage.
Also he has all of his other paths which can summon easily a army like he did to invade konoha and he can use the asura path to fly and bombard whitebeard.

just no if he was struggling to tip marineford over he is definitely not destroying the world.

Whitebeard is obviously much faster than Six Tailed Naruto.

Also, he didn't struggle to tip Marineford, he did it in a gesture.

Really?

Let's look at this logically.

A Sea King (Wank Pieceish for Aligator) bit off Shank's arm. Chapter 1 Luffy killed that Sea King. Shank stalemated Whitebeard.

Nagato has the Rinnegan and can do pretty much anything. Control gravity, rip out souls, absorb any elemental attacks, summon legendary creatures, you name it. Nagato would steamroll all over One Piece.

Luffy would murder Nagato too though.

Actually Whitebeard would one-shot Nagato.

Nice job using an extremely low showing from extremely early in the manga though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Nice job using an extremely low showing from extremely early in the manga though.

At least I bring proof and just don't baselessly wank for no reason.

Point is they never advance that far in the manga, that's what that battle proved. Also even Haku was lightspeed, putting 100% of the high nin (yet alone kages) far beyond anything in speed in One Piece.

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
At least I bring proof and just don't baselessly wank for no reason.

Point is they never advance that far in the manga, that's what that battle proved. Also even Haku was lightspeed, putting 100% of the high nin (yet alone kages) far beyond anything in speed in One Piece.

Haku isn't lightspeed. Databook does not supersede the manga.

Even Seven Gates Gai was only described as supersonic.

They never advance that far in the manga? Are you, perhaps, retarded?

Luffy in Marineford was a joke during the battle, Whitebeard crushed everyone he fought, including Akainu, you know, the man the collective Blackbeard pirates ran in fear from.

Pre-timeskip Luffy needed his entire crew to take on a Pacifista with great difficulty. Now, Luffy, Zoro, or Sanji can effortlessly one-shot them.

Get out.