WBH vs 8th Day Juggernaut

Originally posted by Stoic
There's a huge difference in strength between the Hulk being used in this thread, and the Juggernaut. A regular full powered Cain took months to dig himself out of a temple that caved in, and weeks to months to dig himself out of the foundation that Spiderman trapped him in. Whereas the Hulk at a much weaker level held up a mountain, shifted a tectonic plate on a planet larger than Earth. How can these two even be compared when it comes to sheer strength output?

Cain shouldn't even be able to hurt WBHulk and if he did it would most certainly be PIS, which isn't being used here. 8th Day was overcome by his mystical brethren, which shows that he isn't impossible to be hurt or stopped. They were a pretty powerful group, being able to defeat both Thor, and Hercules, but the Hulk was measured to be more powerful than a lot more than that. Hulk wins this all day everyday.

I think you have a lot of holes in your stance, Stoic. You just admitted 8th Juggs was overcome by MYSTIC brethren. Well Hulk ain't mystic. Also, you are comparing selective feats in favor of Hulk.

To the death, eh?

Juggy wins.

Juggernaut receives the worst beat down in comic history.

i tend to agree....

Carver9 is one of those idiots who no sane person can take seriously.

Classic Juggernaut is stronger than Thor in terms of strength according to the writers. According to the writers 8th day Saga Juggernuat was even stronger.

Any time Juggernaut is showing being hurt by physical force is just poor ass writing. His character's bio states he is immune to physical based attacks regardless of how powerful they are.

The Juggernuat is immortal as long as he is connected to Cyttorak. 8th day or Current Juggernaut would destroy War Breakers Hulk

Originally posted by big juggy man
Carver9 is one of those idiots who no sane person can take seriously.

Originally posted by big juggy man
Carver9 is one of those idiots who no sane person can take seriously.

Classic Juggernaut is stronger than Thor in terms of strength according to the writers. According to the writers 8th day Saga Juggernuat was even stronger.

Any time Juggernaut is showing being hurt by physical force is just poor ass writing. His character's bio states he is immune to physical based attacks regardless of how powerful they are.

The Juggernuat is immortal as long as he is connected to Cyttorak. 8th day or Current Juggernaut would destroy War Breakers Hulk

Lol at me being the idiot and you using a bioas reference in a debate. WTF. Hulk bio states that he is the most powerful being on the planet. It also states that he is the strongest being on the planet. I'm sure you agree with this, don't you?

Lol...debating doesn't work like that. Juggernaut has been hurt more times than him tanking powerful attacks. He isn't true invulnerability.

Lol...Juggernaut has died before. Lol at him being immortal.

Comics isn't that expensive. It's best to pick one up instead of reading wiki bios.

Going with 8th Day Juggernaut, primarily because I don't think he *can* be killed... Especially by brute force alone. I mean, even IF Hulk inextricably bypassed the enchantment and caused him physical damage, Juggy can still fully function as a skeleton, ffs:

He's just so haxx when written properly.

Well there are two things that are unknown. Cain's ability to hurt Hulk which is negligible, and the Hulk's ability to kill Cain which is also negligible. I do however imagine that the Hulk would swat Cain around like a ball of yarn, while Cain would be unable to return the favor. I've read people launching the famous no limits fallacy. So, is it true that Juggernaut has no limit to his durability? Is he a true immortal, and outside of the realm of Death? If this is true, Superboy Prime, Odin, Zeus, Galactus, Thanos, Superman and a slew of other characters would eventually lose to the Juggernaut without us really knowing whether or not he had a hard limit. However, the Hulk has hurt him before. the Exemplars shut him down, and were more than capable of killing him, so I guess he does have a limit. He showed that he had a limit to his strength as well, unless we wanted to ignore that it took him years to dig himself out of a collapsed temple ruin. WB Hulk would have freed himself from that within seconds. Written properly does not somehow mean that Cain was ever completely invulnerable to physical attack. Or is this the one time that the no limits fallacy can be waived?

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut receives the worst beat down in comic history.

Scans of this killing 8th Day. OP said to the death.

Please, I know your next tactic. Turn it round on me, and attempt to deflect by asking for scans, without answering the initial question.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Scans of this killing 8th Day. OP said to the death.

Please, I know your next tactic. Turn it round on me, and attempt to deflect by asking for scans, without answering the initial question.

So what if he KO'd him? Cain has been KO'd before. How long would he have to remain in that condition before it would be considered a loss? From all of the books that I've read with the Juggernaut in, I have yet to see one that shows him to be at WB Hulk's level of strength. Like I said, and it wasn't to low ball him, but more to give an accurate, or quantifiable scale in relation to his level of strength. It took him years to dig himself out of a collapsed temple, and months to free himself from the foundation that Spiderman trapped him in. I wouldn't call that world braking strength. Would you? I mean would he even be able to hurt this version of the Hulk?

Well, thread OPspecified WBH, and to the death.

I can ask, well what happens if it was Gray Hulk?

It means nothing, as OP said WBH.

So a KO is well and good, but OP specified to the death. You can ask about a KO, but its like me asking about Gray, or Banner, or Rulk, or etc etc etc.

Well I don't believe that the Juggernaut is beyond death, but then again I've never seen anything that stated that he could actually die aside from an alternate reality Juggernaut nearly being killed in the New Warriors. I guess that I can't imagine Mr. Immortal beating Superman either, but I guess that he'd win one day when Superman died of old age. WB Hulk could certainly KO him, and that would be enough for me, especially if Cain could not actually die.

Yeah but OPsaid to the death.

It's like going into a thread and saying Superman wins by BFR even when OP specified its off.

Originally posted by big juggy man
Any time Juggernaut is showing being hurt by physical force is just poor ass writing. His character's bio states he is immune to physical based attacks regardless of how powerful they are.

And who can take you seriously after saying such nonsense.?

Classic Juggernaut or re-empowered Juggernaut doesn't stand a chance against WBH in a fight.

I don't know enought about 8th Juggernaut.

WBH stomps and it isnt close.

Originally posted by Galan007
Going with 8th Day Juggernaut, primarily because I don't think he *can* be killed... Especially by brute force alone. I mean, even IF Hulk inextricably bypassed the enchantment and caused him physical damage, Juggy can still fully function as a skeleton, ffs:

He's just so haxx when written properly.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Naija boy
WBH stomps and it isnt close.

So you believe WBH can permenantly kill Juggs? Doesn't more powerful versions of Juggs regenerate? WBH would have to remove his enchantment so that he can die.

I have absolutely no problem thinking WBH can ko Juggs. But permanently kill him?
I'm not too sure?

Stalemate. WBH probably can't kill Jugs while there isn't a thing Jugs can do to WBH