Originally posted by abhilegendYou expected better from me? That is a horribly ironic statement coming from a fella whose entire opinion/argument is fueled entirely by personal conjecture. srsly
Yeah, I think so.So you think that after prime left the sun and became the leader of superman dynasty as shown in ASS, super-sun still powered Kal kent? Again prime made the pact to give powers to his descendents gained from the edge of time and space. 5-d superman is a descendent of superman prime, he's in superman squad and he is shown and alluded as being less powerful than prime. Why are we assuming that there was only one descendent of superman in 853rd century when 5-d superman is also one of his descendent.
I expected better from you galan, I read comics. Where did I say that prime amped everyone from superman squad? I only produced that scan to show that superman dynasty wasn't restricted to earth's solar system which is the only place where SM1M recieves his amp from prime. Now if we take that as consideration that prime can only amp his descendents within the solar system, they wouldn't be amped. But we know that they were amped according to the pact prime made with the descendents.
Largely irrelevant, they aren't descendents of prime.
For SM1M I agree, but all the descendents as shown in Superman 708, not possible in the least. Just answer some of my questions galan and I would concede here. Was 5-d superman a descendent of prime? Did prime made a pact with his descendents that he would amp them? Were there descendents of superman who lived outside of earth's solar system which according to SM1M the outer limit where super sun amps him?
You're ASSUMING that Prime was amping members of the Dynasty in more exotic ways then just through the Super Sun, but you have NO on panel evidence to support your stance. None. Time and time again, the Super Sun was stated to be the power source through which S1M (and his earth-based descendants before him) gained their extra power. Assuming other members of the Superman Dynasty (such as the 5-D Superman) were being amped by Prime through other means that were never referenced, is completely fallacious. Not once was it mentioned, or even alluded to, that the amp extended beyond the Super Sun. Not once.
It's not my prerogative to assume things of this caliber--especially when there is no evidence whatsoever to support said assumptions. The Super Sun is what amps Prime's underlings. That is the only 100% factual part of this debate, because it is the only fact that was stated [several times] on panel. Replacing said fact with your own bias/opinion is a very faulty line of logic.
Bottom line: if you're going to keep ignoring what we were TOLD, and replace it with what you THINK, then I want no part of this discussion. Frankly, it borders on ridiculous as it is.
Originally posted by Galan007
You expected better from me? That is a horribly ironic statement coming from a fella whose entire opinion/argument is fueled entirely by personal conjecture. srslyYou're ASSUMING that Prime was amping members of the Dynasty in more exotic ways then just through the Super Sun, but you have NO on panel evidence to support your stance. None. Time and time again, the Super Sun was stated to be the power source through which S1M (and his earth-based descendants before him) gained their extra power. Assuming other members of the Superman Dynasty (such as the 5-D Superman) were being amped by Prime through other means that were never referenced, is completely fallacious. Not once was it mentioned, or even alluded to, that the amp extended beyond the Super Sun. Not once.
It's not my prerogative to assume things of this caliber--especially when there is no evidence whatsoever to support said assumptions. The Super Sun is what amps Prime's underlings. That is the only 100% factual part of this debate, because it is the only fact that was stated [several times] on panel. Replacing said fact with your own bias/opinion is a very faulty line of logic.
Bottom line: if you're going to keep ignoring what we were TOLD, and replace it with what you THINK, then I want no part of this discussion. Frankly, it borders on ridiculous as it is.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Only one fact and it has context. Lois was alluded to be given the same powers as prime in her new body. ABC logic and feats aren't transferrable to characters.He needed a gl ring so much that he wsn't even shown to be present in the scan where he crushed solaris. Solaris was an insect to him which he brushed away with the most efficient and quick manner posiible.
Guess what, when prime crushed solaris he was near dead and when all star superman crushed solaris he was still powerful enough to kill a baby sun eater. If we go by your theory than we reach at the conclusion that ASS is more powerful than prime, which is shown as false in the comics.
By poisoning the sun while he was asleep. Don't leave the context behind.
You mean being incorrect about one fact. Your antics are amusing though. Now hush child, elders are speaking.
dude are you fine in your head? golden prime asked the help of a 5 IMP to ressurect lois it was on panel stop trolling, golden prime doesnt empower the 5 IMP beings since they are in a whole other dimension they are not getting their powers from the super sun learn some comics
so you admitted using a GL ring was the quickest and best way for him to handle solaris Lol, by saying that you basically admited the GL ring is more effective than any other power he has, i dont care about your speculations and that you think solaris was an insect to him or what ever the facts are simple, a beaten up and dying solaris was killed by golden prime using a GL ring, if he is so powerful why did he need a GL ring? Lol
golden prime was near dead when he crushed solaris???? what are you mumbling about boy? did you read the 1 million arc? go back and read it and stop making a tool out of yourself
it doesnt matter what was his plan the fact was that solaris was going to use a kryptonite to kill golden superman and thats it, no matter how you will try to twist it or troll the facts are ladies and gentlmen , oh and aghiwhatever that solaris was going to use a kryptonite to kill golden prime and everybody knew it will kill him and needed to save him Lol , yeah he is so powerful no doubt everybody were running around like crazy to save his ass from kryptonite, a powerhouse indeed 🙄
dude you are basically trolling on purpose and twisting feats that everybody know about and realise you are just trolling... now thats dumb
Originally posted by red sabre
dude are you fine in your head? golden prime asked the help of a 5 IMP to ressurect lois it was on panel stop trolling, golden prime doesnt empower the 5 IMP beings since they are in a whole other dimension they are not getting their powers from the super sun learn some comicsso you admitted using a GL ring was the quickest and best way for him to handle solaris Lol, by saying that you basically admited the GL ring is more effective than any other power he has, i dont care about your speculations and that you think solaris was an insect to him or what ever the facts are simple, a beaten up and dying solaris was killed by golden prime using a GL ring, if he is so powerful why did he need a GL ring? Lol
golden prime was near dead when he crushed solaris???? what are you mumbling about boy? did you read the 1 million arc? go back and read it and stop making a tool out of yourself
it doesnt matter what was his plan the fact was that solaris was going to use a kryptonite to kill golden superman and thats it, no matter how you will try to twist it or troll the facts are ladies and gentlmen , oh and aghiwhatever that solaris was going to use a kryptonite to kill golden prime and everybody knew it will kill him and needed to save him Lol , yeah he is so powerful no doubt everybody were running around like crazy to save his ass from kryptonite, a powerhouse indeed 🙄
dude you are basically trolling on purpose and twisting feats that everybody know about and realise you are just trolling... now thats dumb