Originally posted by carver9
It should even out since Herc is a better fighter. I also don't think heat vision and ice breath would be the deciding factor.
Hercules would be better in H2H assuming he could keep it to that arena. You could certainly argue that Herc would be skilled enough to do so. But Superman's ability to use his powers pretty effectively in combat is a great asset of his.
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Oh, hell, who am I kidding? Hercules kicks his balls and gives him a double leg takedown of doom.
Originally posted by carver9
The strength and durability is a wash and Superman is faster than nano second speed? Scans.
Not really...I dont like admitting it but superman has the feats to back it up. Its not an overwhelming difference but I think its generally agreed that Superman has the edge in strength than Hercules, Thor, Gladiator, etc.
You want to get into a speed feats contest with Superman using Gladiator? No...
He could move fast enough to become intangible to others. His FTL speed feats are ridiculous.
Also: What instance are you referring to for the nanosecond speed feat by glads?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hercules would be better in H2H assuming he could keep it to that arena. You could certainly argue that Herc would be skilled enough to do so. But Superman's ability to use his powers pretty effectively in combat is a great asset of his.....
Oh, hell, who am I kidding? Hercules kicks his balls and gives him a double leg takedown of doom.
👆 This, sir, is a good answer.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Not really...I dont like admitting it but superman has the feats to back it up. Its not an overwhelming difference but I think its generally agreed that Superman has the edge in strength than Hercules, Thor, Gladiator, etc.You want to get into a speed feats contest with Superman using Gladiator? No...
He could move fast enough to become intangible to others. His FTL speed feats are ridiculous.
Also: What instance are you referring to for the nanosecond speed feat by glads?
Gladiator was fighting Hyperion at nano second speeds. Gladiator built a high tech computer for hours moving his limbs at Hyper speed. Gladiator also have the blur thing going...other hyper speed fts going. He have enough speed showings that proves he is a top notch speedster along with guiding himself past planets while guiding at the same time while flying at 100 Times the speed of light.
Originally posted by carver9Supermans track record > Gladiators not even based off quantity but quality this thread is a wash Superman wins
Gladiator was fighting Hyperion at nano second speeds. Gladiator built a high tech computer for hours moving his limbs at Hyper speed. Gladiator also have the blur thing going...other hyper speed fts going. He have enough speed showings that proves he is a top notch speedster along with guiding himself past planets while guiding at the same time while flying at 100 Times the speed of light.
Originally posted by carver9
Gladiator was fighting Hyperion at nano second speeds. Gladiator built a high tech computer for hours moving his limbs at Hyper speed. Gladiator also have the blur thing going...other hyper speed fts going. He have enough speed showings that proves he is a top notch speedster along with guiding himself past planets while guiding at the same time while flying at 100 Times the speed of light.
Oh he's a speedster no doubt. I'm not challenging that.
Is there something I missed about the Gladiator vs Hyperion fight then? Because I remember no such thing about nano second speed being involved. They lock arms, shoot beams at each other, then gladiator owns him with superior skill.
Gladiator has gone intangible? Pretty sure I would have heard about that before now. Not just being blurry going fast. Superman stood in place and was unable to be struck. If I'm wrong so be it.
Superman made it from the milky way galaxy to Andromeda in 10 minutes. That would more or less put him at 134X the speed of light.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Oh he's a speedster no doubt. I'm not challenging that.Is there something I missed about the Gladiator vs Hyperion fight then? Because I remember no such thing about nano second speed being involved. They lock arms, shoot beams at each other, then gladiator owns him with superior skill.
Gladiator has gone intangible? Pretty sure I would have heard about that before now. Not just being blurry going fast. Superman stood in place and was unable to be struck. If I'm wrong so be it.
Superman made it from the milky way galaxy to Andromeda in 10 minutes. That would more or less put him at 134X the speed of light.
This isn't about flight because Superman and Gladiator both have amazing flight. Superman and Supergirl and Quicksilver and Northstar going intangible doesn't mean they are moving at light speed or anywhere close to it.
THIS is far more impressive.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8585/hyperspeed35nr.jpg
THIS is far more impressive.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg
THIS is more impressive.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/457/gladiatorvshyperion049nv.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/457/gladiatorvshyperion053gh.jpg/
Nano second buddy..FTL or close showings. Quantifiable as well. This is him moving his limbs at light speed...operating machinery at light speed. No Herald besides Majestic share these fts.
Originally posted by carver9
This isn't about flight because Superman and Gladiator both have amazing flight. Superman and Supergirl and Quicksilver and Northstar going intangible doesn't mean they are moving at light speed or anywhere close to it.THIS is far more impressive.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8585/hyperspeed35nr.jpg
THIS is far more impressive.
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7296/hyperspeed11mv.jpg
THIS is more impressive.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/457/gladiatorvshyperion049nv.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/457/gladiatorvshyperion053gh.jpg/Nano second buddy..FTL or close showings. Quantifiable as well. This is him moving his limbs at light speed...operating machinery at light speed. No Herald besides Majestic share these fts.
So we agree Superman is faster though right? And vibrating so fast in place you cant be touched is a feat in by itself. And not something Gladiator is capable of.
Ah so there is some mention of nano second fighting in it. Thank you.
Those.....were not particularly impressive. >_>
Gladiator says he's been going nano second speed.
Superman does it here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/511/nanoseconduf2.jpg/
If we go by caption statments then Superman is capable of racing photons: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesracingPhoton.jpg
This is also pretty good: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/86/actioncomics777p11jm5.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/155/actioncomics777p14qu1.jpg/
