I am taking Void/Sentry over the Hulk...
As pertains Sentry beating MM, Owens own CIS completely sabotaged him; Owen didnt fight anywhere near as forcefully as he was capable of (and was having conflicting thoughts; this is in evidence by the talking "beings" he had called into existance and was conversing with) and had to be distracted before Sentry was able to gain the upper hand...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderMm completely ate him and then destroyed him. What else should he have done ?
I am taking Void/Sentry over the Hulk...As pertains Sentry beating MM, Owens own CIS completely sabotaged him; Owen didnt fight anywhere near as forcefully as he was capable of (and was having conflicting thoughts; this is in evidence by the talking "beings" he had called into existance and was conversing with) and had to be distracted before Sentry was able to gain the upper hand...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Mm completely ate him and then destroyed him. What else should he have done ?
When Owen turned him into water and saw the water was "angry," he could have done a number of things, but he was deep in thought with the other aspects of his personality...
What could Owen have done at that point? Reduce the "water" to zero mass at rest particles, spread them out over several light years of space, and freeze them in place for starters...
Owen could do even meaner, more permanent, stuff than that if his CIS wasnt in the way...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderIf the Sentry can reform or change his appearance at will he'd still come back from it.
When Owen turned him into water and saw the water was "angry," he could have done a number of things, but he was deep in thought with the other aspects of his personality...What could Owen have done at that point? Reduce the "water" to zero mass at rest particles, spread them out over several light years of space, and freeze them in place for starters...
Owen could do even meaner, more permanent, stuff than that if his CIS wasnt in the way...
Sentry beat him at his own game.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's an outside amp. I also disagree.
Well you simply asked which top tier was stronger than Void/Sentry; you never stated that there were no outside amps...
Sans outside amps, I cant think of any top tier (I assume you mean Herald or Lower...right?) stronger than Void/Sentry though...
Originally posted by quanchi112
If the Sentry can reform or change his appearance at will he'd still come back from it.Sentry beat him at his own game.
Owen being distracted gave Void/Sentry the time he needed to reform...
Owen had enough time to prevent this if he wasnt such a train wreck mentally and emotionally...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderWhat's the point if they are allowed to amp ?
Well you simply asked which top tier was stronger than Void/Sentry; you never stated that there were no outside amps...Sans outside amps, I cant think of any top tier (I assume you mean Herald or Lower...right?) stronger than Void/Sentry though...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderHe was destroyed. He came back to life. Isn't the first time.
Owen being distracted gave Void/Sentry the time he needed to reform...Owen had enough time to prevent this if he wasnt such a train wreck mentally and emotionally...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderjust like he could prevent void from owning him and making him put everything back the way it was. He even say "How is this possible I control the molecules" or something to that extent.
Owen being distracted gave Void/Sentry the time he needed to reform...Owen had enough time to prevent this if he wasnt such a train wreck mentally and emotionally...
Originally posted by quanchi112
What's the point if they are allowed to amp ?He was destroyed. He came back to life. Isn't the first time.
Whats the point if they are allowed to amp? Well several characters specifically have the power to amp up under certain conditions...
As pertains Void being destroyed before, Owen may have been his only opponent with the power to prevent him from coming back to life permanently if he wasnt sabotaging himself; the laws of physics do apply in Marvel, and I can think of ways (ways that are very much within Owens power set) that would make it completely impossible for Void to come back to life from...
After spreading Voids essense over light years worth of space, Owen could have trapped his particles on closed looped paths where every attempt to reform simply resets that particle back in time to the point where it was spread out the farthest...
Owens options for dealing with Void/Sentry are essentially only limited by his frame of mind and creativity; Owen was his own worst enemy during his fight with Void/Sentry however...
Originally posted by bbrem123
just like he could prevent void from owning him and making him put everything back the way it was. He even say "How is this possible I control the molecules" or something to that extent.
That didnt occur until after Owen essentially turned his back to Void/Sentry atleast twice...
When he turned Sentry into water, only Owens screwed up frame of mind prevented him from continuing the assault with something even more lethal...
Owen distracting himself gave Sentry the time he needed to reform at that point...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderbut why was Owen unable to get the upperhand...if he was more powerful then he should of had no problem
That didnt occur until after Owen essentially turned his back to Void/Sentry atleast twice...When he turned Sentry into water, only Owens screwed up frame of mind prevented him from continuing the assault with something even more lethal...
Owen distracting himself gave Sentry the time he needed to reform at that point...