Originally posted by quanchi112A speedblitz is using your speed to overwhelm an opponent in combat.
You don't even know what a speed blitz is. You think flying into someone is a speed blitz. Stick to games, dude. Actually you're terrible at games too. Give checkers a shot.
Like the multiple examples I brought up.
Prove Superman Prime didn't use speed against Monarch.
Also: You are the worst debater in this forum, and can only rely on your ad hominems and attacks on my credibility (Which is a silly thing to do, since you have none), rather than your intellect or grasp of logic.
Address my points or leave the thread.
Originally posted by NemeBroA speedblitz is a succession of attacks in which your opponent cannot muster a counter attack not just flying into someone. Monarch was able to counter his attacks. Prime wasn't too quick to attack any opponents. He flies sure but he doesn't use his speed to overwhelm pretty much anyone on panel. We might see prime fly into someone and then the next time we see his opponent aka MM he's beaten but that's off panel. Landing the first attack is nice but Prime really hasn't shown anyone up on speed.
A speedblitz is using your speed to overwhelm an opponent in combat.Like the multiple examples I brought up.
Prove Superman Prime didn't use speed against Monarch.
Also: You are the worst debater in this forum, and can only rely on your ad hominems and attacks on my credibility (Which is a silly thing to do, since you have none), rather than your intellect or grasp of logic.
Address my points or leave the thread.
Prime is a brick. Bricks trade blows. That's exactly how he fights time and time again. He's pretty powerful but the guy doesn't use his speed offensively in the manner in which you are debating for. You're a feat arguer. Worst kind of debater.
Originally posted by quanchi112
A speedblitz is a succession of attacks in which your opponent cannot muster a counter attack not just flying into someone.
Right, like what happens when he fights Superman.
Monarch was able to counter his attacks.
Which proves he is very fast.
Prime wasn't too quick to attack any opponents. He flies sure but he doesn't use his speed to overwhelm pretty much anyone on panel. We might see prime fly into someone and then the next time we see his opponent aka MM he's beaten but that's off panel. Landing the first attack is nice but Prime really hasn't shown anyone up on speed.
He counter-blitzed three Flashes. 😐
He dominated Superboy, who couldn't get a hit in, in most of his fights.
He did the same to a large team of Green Lanterns, and ended it with Guy Gardner gasping for air from Superboy Prime choking him with a single hand.
Please stop.
Prime is a brick. Bricks trade blows.
Aka you have no proof that Prime didn't use speed against Monarch. You're pretty dumb, huh?
That's exactly how he fights time and time again. He's pretty powerful but the guy doesn't use his speed offensively in the manner in which you are debating for.
Other than the occasions I brought up.
You're a feat arguer. Worst kind of debater.The only thing you do is deny the opposition's feats while wanking your side's feats to oblivion.
You should go away.
Originally posted by NemeBroHe didn't speedblitz Superman. You don't even know the term means. You already embarrassed yourself.
Right, like what happens when he fights Superman.Which proves he is very fast.
He counter-blitzed three Flashes. 😐
He dominated Superboy, who couldn't get a hit in, in most of his fights.
He did the same to a large team of Green Lanterns, and ended it with Guy Gardner gasping for air from Superboy Prime choking him with a single hand.
Please stop.
Aka you have no proof that Prime didn't use speed against Monarch. You're pretty dumb, huh?
Other than the occasions I brought up.
The only thing you do is deny the opposition's feats while wanking your side's feats to oblivion.
You should go away.
The Hulk countered the Sentry's attacks as well. I guarantee you abandon this logic when you don't care about the character.
That's not in an offensive manner he used it in defense that time only. He also was defeated and was shown to be slower than the Flashes.
Superboy scarred him for life. Prime is a lot more powerful but doesn't speedblitz him he just attacks him. You still aren't getting this. Le sigh.
Prime attacked them while flying. That isn't a blitz. Are you doing this on purpose ?
Prime flew into him. Then he was countered. Sentry flew into the WW Hulk. Then he was countered. Are you really this simple ?
Off panel beatdowns. Whoopty doo.
You don't even know what a speed blitz is. You should go away now.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It isn't a retcon. Power levels vary from story to story. In the story we are referring to alternate reality versions were kicking their asses.
So? You lowball every Monitor feat by implying he wasn't able to tank a blast in that story, you're cherry picking the Monitor feats to suit your argument. Even if the comic was intended to depict whatever you're arguing -it sure as hell never suggested Hulk was in Monarch's level-, it would still be a meaningless argument because we already know better, we know the Monitors can be multiversal.
Originally posted by BentleyI am discussing the Monitop's portrayal in the story the feat occurred. You want to pretend Morrison's depictions matter in a countdown story. Far less than the Hulk was beating the collective power of the Monitors not just one.
So? You lowball every Monitor feat by implying he wasn't able to tank a blast in that story, you're cherry picking the Monitor feats to suit your argument. Even if the comic was intended to depict whatever you're arguing -it sure as hell never suggested Hulk was in Monarch's level-, it would still be a meaningless argument because we already know better, we know the Monitors can be multiversal.