Originally posted by Cogito
Wolverine lacks the ability to cut Colossus. This has come up before. He's just not strong enough to cut highly durable opponents. He sure as shit isn't cutting Superman.Black Bolt's scream is not sound based. Superman's hearing shouldn't have any extra impact, barring a 'tard writer.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
A knife can cut through cardboard, but if I only lightly press into the cardboard it won't go through. Just because something can cut through something in theory, it won't matter if I don't follow through with enough force to pierce it.
True, but if the blade is sufficiently hard and sharp, the amount of force required can be very little. For example, if you were to replicate your hypothetical cardboard experiment with a diamond-coated surgical scalpel, the slightest pressure will in fact let the blade slide right through.
Since we know Adamantium is impossibly hard, the question of what Logan can cut with his strength is entirely determined by how sharp his claws are.
Originally posted by country1000
Really? I thought he absorbs more sunlight when he's under stress. Funny how you now have an excuse and say he got all exhausted when he got cut. lol
It's not an excuse, because it's true. Superman's increased solar absorption was only something that came in later in comics, and even if you wanted to retroactively apply it, it would still come down to Doomsday causing so much damage to Superman's body, that Superman simply couldn't recharge fast enough to counteract it.
Originally posted by -Pr-It has never been shown in any comic, it was a statement made by two people which falls under hyperbole because it has never happened in a comic as far as i know. Also, how do you know he could not recharge fast enough? That seems like an excuse too.
It's not an excuse, because it's true. Superman's increased solar absorption was only something that came in later in comics, and even if you wanted to retroactively apply it, it would still come down to Doomsday causing so much damage to Superman's body, that Superman simply couldn't recharge fast enough to counteract it.
Originally posted by country1000
It has never been shown in any comic, it was a statement made by two people which falls under hyperbole because it has never happened in a comic as far as i know. Also, how do you know he could not recharge fast enough? That seems like an excuse too.
Statements aren't automatically hyperbole, so I don't know where that came from. What never happened in a comic, exactly? Him absorbing more energy? Or him weakening when his reserves were lower? Both have.
It's only an excuse because you want it to be one. Superman's healing factor depends on sunlight absorption. The more sunlight Superman absorbs, the more powerful he gets, and as such, the faster he heals.
It's like trying to fill a jug while said jug is being emptied. If you can't fill it faster than it's being emptied, then you're going to be losing.
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That all said, Doomsday puncturing Superman is likely just due to how tough Doomsday himself is, given that he and Superman are generally portrayed as physical peers.
Originally posted by -Pr-Superman has to get closer or go into the sun to get more powerful, he cannot will himself stronger nor can he increase his powers in any other way. He cannot control the intensity of the sunlight, if 90 degree heat hits him, thats all he will get. The fact that he has to enter or get near the sun to get stronger proves my case.
Statements aren't automatically hyperbole, so I don't know where that came from. What never happened in a comic, exactly? Him absorbing more energy? Or him weakening when his reserves were lower? Both have.It's only an excuse because you want it to be one. Superman's healing factor depends on sunlight absorption. The more sunlight Superman absorbs, the more powerful he gets, and as such, the faster he heals.
It's like trying to fill a jug while said jug is being emptied. If you can't fill it faster than it's being emptied, then you're going to be losing.
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That all said, Doomsday puncturing Superman is likely just due to how tough Doomsday himself is, given that he and Superman are generally portrayed as physical peers.
Originally posted by country1000
Superman has to get closer or go into the sun to get more powerful, he cannot will himself stronger nor can he increase his powers in any other way. He cannot control the intensity of the sunlight, if 90 degree heat hits him, thats all he will get. The fact that he has to enter or get near the sun to get stronger proves my case.
No. Superman, if he's exposed to the sun, only needs his emotional state to change for him to get more powerful.
It's not a fact, actually.
Originally posted by country1000
Superman has to get closer or go into the sun to get more powerful, he cannot will himself stronger nor can he increase his powers in any other way. He cannot control the intensity of the sunlight, if 90 degree heat hits him, thats all he will get. The fact that he has to enter or get near the sun to get stronger proves my case.
Except that's not the only way he gets more powerful.and also it's a bad analogy anyway as he's more like a capacitor in the way he stores solar energy. And how is it "making excuses"? Being beaten down by doomsday depletes solar energy from superman so him getting "cut" isn't superman starting at his peak getting cut. It's like saying ok... Wolverine can cut superman... As long as doomsday beats him down for an hour before wolverine tries to cut him.
Originally posted by Cogito
Wolverine lacks the ability to cut Colossus. This has come up before. He's just not strong enough to cut highly durable opponents. He sure as shit isn't cutting Superman.
He's cut many nigh-invulnerable characters, he doesn't need much strength to back up blades made of the "miracle metal".
Originally posted by -Pr-That is not the case with superman. His emotional state does not decrease or increase his powers. The fact that he HAS to sundip or get closer to the sun is the key. If superman has mental blocks as claimed, what happens to them when he dips? Does the dip override the block? Does he drop the mental blocks himself and if so, why does he needs to sundip then? In other words, the sun controls his powers, not him. He cannot get mad and get stronger, he cannot cut loose and get stronger. His strength is set in stone unless he powers up in the sun.
No. Superman, if he's exposed to the sun, only needs his emotional state to change for him to get more powerful.It's not a fact, actually.
Originally posted by PillarofOsirisSuperman has been cut at his peak before.
Except that's not the only way he gets more powerful.and also it's a bad analogy anyway as he's more like a capacitor in the way he stores solar energy. And how is it "making excuses"? Being beaten down by doomsday depletes solar energy from superman so him getting "cut" isn't superman starting at his peak getting cut. It's like saying ok... Wolverine can cut superman... As long as doomsday beats him down for an hour before wolverine tries to cut him.
