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Thanos gives Hulk a "mind whammy" and makes him attack his teammates?
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Thanos gives Hulk a "mind whammy" and makes him attack his teammates?
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
You must be joking.Villains like Thanos is exactly the Avengers were created for.
Thanos is one tough cookie, but he won't run over Thor & Red Hulk just like that. Not under his own power.
And give Iron Man some prep and, together with Thor, he'll take out Thanos.
Won't run over Thor or Red Hulk... Umm actually that is just what he should do... he won't under Bendis... but he should.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Although Thanos > Thor, the difference in power isn't that big. Thor can and will give Thanos a very decent fight every single time.
I appreciate your respectful attitude, but your grasp of the characters is somewhat lacking.
A) The difference between Thanos and Thor is enormous. This isn't ABC logic; they've fought several times. Thanos generally tosses him around like a ragdoll while beating on other Avengers. Thor has always needed magical items to greatly augment his power to put up a "decent fight." Normal Thor simply isn't in Thanos' league.
B) Tony Stark isn't that good with prep. He should be. He's smart and resourceful,but he's no Reed Richards. The problem is that, in-character, his version of prep usually just means building a new Iron Man suit and aligning some satellites, which usually doesn't work. The difference in power between him and Thanos is way too big for him to win that way, even with a team.
C) Saying that Thanos can beat a character because of what he's done to other characters is not ABC logic. I'll spare you the lengthy epistemology lesson and just say that the characters involved have had enough showings that some generalizations are empiracally justified. That herald-level characters are no threat to Thanos is justified. That Thor is a herald -level character is also justified. The conclusion, that Thor is no threat to Thanos, is sound. That's not ABC logic, it's good old-fashioned logic. Granted, this is irrelevant because they have actually fought, but for future reference...
Inarguably, there are hypothetical lineups of Avengers that would beat Thanos, particularly those involving classic Strange. Sersi would also be a valuable asset, as would Sentry/Void, maybe Quasar, and Reed Richards.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
I appreciate your respectful attitude, but your grasp of the characters is somewhat lacking.A) The difference between Thanos and Thor is enormous. This isn't ABC logic; they've fought several times. Thanos generally tosses him around like a ragdoll while beating on other Avengers. Thor has always needed magical items to greatly augment his power to put up a "decent fight." Normal Thor simply isn't in Thanos' league.
1. Masterson Thor vs IG Thanos.
Masterson actually put up a great fight, he knocked Thanos down TWICE, one time without Mjolnir, the second time with Mjolnir. He only was defeated because Thanos used the IG.
2. Warrior Madness Thor vs Thanos.
Thanos did NOT beat Thor, he used a plot device, some fancy weapon that shows up out of the blue.
3. Amped Thor vs amped Thanos
Thor won, plain and simple.
Those examples are so piss poor I don't even know where to begin...
MT... did NOTHING to Thanos that Thanos DIDN'T ALLOW. U know this yet intentionally left this part out...
Thanos DID win that fight plain and simple. Even before he did so... the fight was dead even.... with Thanos scoring more knockdowns.
IT WAS A CLONE... That is all that needs to be said.
You also forgot to mention Thanos two shot Thor and Thing at the same time... You also forgot to mention him with mere gestures.. stomp Thor's hammer with ease....You also fail to mention Thanos ragdolling Thor with help and flinging him over his head like a weak feeb... Thor is NOT in Thanos league... In fact he's a few leagues below.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
MT... did NOTHING to Thanos that Thanos DIDN'T ALLOW. U know this yet intentionally left this part out...
Thanos DID win that fight plain and simple. Even before he did so... the fight was dead even.... with Thanos scoring more knockdowns.
Thanos used a gun because he was losing the fight.
IT WAS A CLONE... That is all that needs to be said.
Besides, it was written with the intent to be the real Thanos.
Originally posted by Nihilist
KK learn to read something about Thanos in Infinte Abyss he states all his clones he has created are inferior in one way or another.
Kaine is an inferior Spider-Man clone, but at the same time he was a lot stronger than Spider-Man.
By the way, Omega... not exactly a pushover.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Nonsense. You have nothing to back that up. Thanos didn't allow squat.Eh no. No. Again: no.
Thanos used a gun because he was losing the fight.
You know what a clone is, right ? Exact duplicate... Where was it stated that this clone was weaker than the real Thanos ?
Besides, it was written with the intent to be the real Thanos.
I have nothing to back that up you say... Okay... Thanos took on abtracts and beat them with utter ease... Yet, you believe he struggled with Masterson Thor... Ummmm do you see something painfully obvious... THANOS ALLOWED them appear like they had a chance to impress death. If not, even a simpleton like you would know.. he would beaten all the heroes assembled with a mere thought.. a gesture.. True or no? Don't ask for proof.. then get called on it and look dumb.
How many knockdowns did Thanos score and how many did Thor? Are you saying no to Thanos knocking down Thor more? Thanos was losing.. WTF... at no point was he losing. Please post ANY proof that he was losing the fight and had to get the gun.
As stated...his clones were inferior plain and simple.
Originally posted by Kid KurdyNot at all when he mentioned the clone Thor fought, plus he did mention Omega as being more powerfull.
That's a bit vague, isn't it ?Kaine is an inferior Spider-Man clone, but at the same time he was a lot stronger than Spider-Man.
By the way, Omega... not exactly a pushover.
Read some Thanos for a change before talikng the same old shit.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I have nothing to back that up you say... Okay... Thanos took on abtracts and beat them with utter ease... Yet, you believe he struggled with Masterson Thor... Ummmm do you see something painfully obvious... THANOS ALLOWED them appear like they had a chance to impress death. If not, even a simpleton like you would know.. he would beaten all the heroes assembled with a mere thought.. a gesture.. True or no? Don't ask for proof.. then get called on it and look dumb.
"But but but Thanos allowed this..." nonsense, he was trying to impress Death, not exactly a clever way to impress your date.
Again, Thanos didn't allow one thing. He only removed his sensory inputs so he could be surprised. He didn't know what was gonna happen, he even said after the first attack something like "Wow I didn't expect such an attack !"
He gave up a part of his power to impress Death, so he could be surprised. And surprised he was. But saying that he "allowed Masterson Thor to knock him down" is bull.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He actually did. 😂 Wow.
But if you are so sure, create a vs-thread.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I did not say he struggled, don't twist my words, I said MT knocked Thanos on his ass TWICE."But but but Thanos allowed this..." nonsense, he was trying to impress Death, not exactly a clever way to impress your date.
Again, Thanos didn't allow one thing. He only removed his sensory inputs so he could be surprised. He didn't know what was gonna happen, he even said after the first attack something like "Wow I didn't expect such an attack !"
He gave up a part of his power to impress Death, so he could be surprised. And surprised he was. But saying that he "allowed Masterson Thor to knock him down" is bull.
This is VERY simple and yet you still can't grasp such a simple concept.. BTW... don't think I don't notice you not quoting the rest of my post... Wonder Why... LOL.
Anyways, so we saw Thanos beat abstracts with utter ease.. gestures even.... So we see the power he can produce and this is after beign attacked by beings FAR greater than MT... Like exponentially greater. Point is, AS SOON as the heroes arrived he could've THOUGHT them out of existence. Period. That in n of itself shows that Thanos ALLOWED ALL that occured afterwards. It wasn't just about turning that off... that alone proves the point further... if he didn't do that.. again that word again ALLOW himself to turn that off.. no hero would have a chance. However, even besides that point.. if that was going all out... he would've blinked them out of existence.. the simple fact that they were still there and he was even partacking in h2h combat.. means what.. HE ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN. How such a simple thing is so confusing is amazing.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is VERY simple and yet you still can't grasp such a simple concept.. BTW... don't think I don't notice you not quoting the rest of my post... Wonder Why... LOL.Anyways, so we saw Thanos beat abstracts with utter ease.. gestures even.... So we see the power he can produce and this is after beign attacked by beings FAR greater than MT... Like exponentially greater. Point is, AS SOON as the heroes arrived he could've THOUGHT them out of existence. Period. That in n of itself shows that Thanos ALLOWED ALL that occured afterwards. It wasn't just about turning that off... that alone proves the point further... if he didn't do that.. again that word again ALLOW himself to turn that off.. no hero would have a chance. However, even besides that point.. if that was going all out... he would've blinked them out of existence.. the simple fact that they were still there and he was even partacking in h2h combat.. means what.. HE ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN. How such a simple thing is so confusing is amazing.